Who said "Pascal is dead"?

Who said "Pascal is dead"?

Niunio

Member #1,975

March 2002

I'm so proud I must tell to somebody. In January Allegro.pas was downloaded more than 1,000 times. That's almost a proportion of 4/1 of the average value!

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I know, I know, the original Allegro downloads for January are 15,000 but I'm soooooooo proud.

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Bob Keane

Member #7,342

June 2006

He is dead.

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Niunio

Member #1,975

March 2002

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bamccaig

Member #7,536

July 2006

There must be some explanation... :-/ It seems unlikely that downloads would more than double over the course of a month when they've been relatively steady until then.

Be honest. Did you write a looping script? Or was there some major new release?

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kenmasters1976

Member #8,794

July 2007

Well, congratulations. I haven't used Pascal/Delphi for a long time, but here in Mexico it's still being used in some schools for teaching.

Now, can you use Allegro.pas to make NDS games with FreePascal's ARM compiler?. That would make it a lot more popular.

BAF

Member #2,981

December 2002

I'm sure you could, once you get Allegro to work on NDS. I dont think that port was ever finished.

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Thomas Fjellstrom

Member #476

June 2000

BAF said:

I dont think that port was ever finished.

Nope, but at the very least software rendering worked, but obviously it was quite slow. I do want to get the hw driver working, but Its just so far down on my list of things to do...

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Bob Keane

Member #7,342

June 2006

Hmmm, maybe I should get a Pascal compiler to learn a new language.

Arthur Kalliokoski

Second in Command

February 2005

If you're not shooting yourself in the foot with your current language, don't bother.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

FMC

Member #4,431

March 2004

bamccaig said:

Or was there some major new release?

You don't look often at the homepage^[1], do you?

References

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bamccaig

Member #7,536

July 2006

FMC said:

You don't look often at the homepage, do you?

No. I have Firefox keywords setup to move around Allegro.cc quickly: al (Login), a forum (Forum by number or name), ao (Off-topic forum), ap (Programming forum), as (Search) (or g site:allegro.cc terms for Google Search). I almost never go to the home page unless I'm testing whether or not I can access Allegro.cc (when there are networking issues on either side). Even still, I've almost never read it.

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BAF

Member #2,981

December 2002

Wow, you're a hardcore a.ccer. And I thought it was bad that typing "a <down> <enter>" into the address bar brought me to the recent posts page, where I spend 99% of my time on a.cc. (Well, now that I use Chrome, I don't even have to hit down, so its just "a <enter>" now).

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OICW

Member #4,069

November 2003

BAF said:

Wow, you're a hardcore a.ccer. And I thought it was bad that typing "a <down> <enter\>" into the address bar brought me to the recent posts page, where I spend 99% of my time on a.cc. (Well, now that I use Chrome, I don't even have to hit down, so its just "a <enter\>" now).

That's why I have one one tab in Firefox still open on a recent posts page.

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Neil Walker

Member #210

April 2000

Bob Keane said:

He is dead.

You've got the wrong Pascal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimbonda

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Bob Keane

Member #7,342

June 2006

I don't think so. Most of the posts in this thread refer to the programming language, which was named for this guy.

Niunio

Member #1,975

March 2002

kenmasters1976 said:

Now, can you use Allegro.pas to make NDS games with FreePascal's ARM compiler?. That would make it a lot more popular.

That would be great, but I haven't access to a NDS and have no idea if it's possible. I didn't success trying to link Allegro staticaly using Free Pascal so it uses dynamic linking, and I'm not sure if NDS will do it.

BTW I'm looking for people who would try to use Allegro.pas in other systems as MacOS, QNX, GP2X... AFAIK It should work just changing few lines in one or two files.

Bob Keane said:

Hmmm, maybe I should get a Pascal compiler to learn a new language.

Learn it! If you can't I'll return the money.

Bob Keane said:

don't think so. Most of the posts in this thread refer to the programming language(...)

::)

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Bob Keane

Member #7,342

June 2006

Are there any IDEs that use Pascal? What's the difference between Pascal and Turbo Pascal?

LennyLen

Member #5,313

December 2004

Bob Keane said:

Are there any IDEs that use Pascal?

Bloodshed (the makers of Dev-C++) also have a Dev-Pascal IDE. I don't know if it's any better than Dev-C++ though, as I've never used it.

Quote:

What's the difference between Pascal and Turbo Pascal?

Turbo Pascal is Borland's Pascal IDE/compiler.

Niunio

Member #1,975

March 2002

Bob Keane said:

Are there any IDEs that use Pascal?

Lazarus, Geany, Morfik FX, FPC IDE, Vim, Delphi and Dev-Pascal too.

Oh, and may be you should know that Dev-C++ is written in Object Pascal. 8-)

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Thomas Fjellstrom

Member #476

June 2000

Niunio said:

Oh, and may be you should know that Dev-C++ is written in Object Pascal

Or maybe more accurately, Delphi. Back when I first tried it out, it was very obvious that it used Delphi, mostly due to the Delphi "out of bounds array index" exceptions that DevC++ would pop up CONSTANTLY.

OICW

Member #4,069

November 2003

Niunio said:

BTW I'm looking for people who would try to use Allegro.pas in other systems as MacOS, QNX, GP2X... AFAIK It should work just changing few lines in one or two files.

Just a question. Shouldn't be possible to run plain ol' Allegro on QNX natively? I mean:
1) get the compiler^[1]
2) make Allegro port for QNX
3)
4) $$ profit 8-)

Quite a shame I've had to return driver's computer/display from a new tramcar I was working on. It ran QNX and was a quite a nice toy to play with. So I can't test it even if I could toy with that display after work.

References

This one would be the hardest, I don't suspect any free compilers for embedded platforms or am I mistaken?

Thomas Fjellstrom

Member #476

June 2000

OICW said:

Shouldn't be possible to run plain ol' Allegro on QNX natively?

Allegro.pas is a pascal binding to Plain Ol' Allegro afaik. The entire point of it is so you can write programs in Pascal that use allegro. AFAIK it is not a port of allegro TO pascal. You'll notice the OSs that are listed are somewhat supported platforms for allegro native.

Niunio

Member #1,975

March 2002

That's the point, Thomas: Allegro.pas is a bind not a port.

Theoretically Allegro.pas should work on any platform that:

Has a Plain Ol' Allegro port (version 4.4)
Free Pascal is able to generate executables for it (I don't know if its possible to use GNU-Pascal, but current version doesn't compile on Delphi)
Has dynamic library linking (.so/.dll/.dylib/...)

If the platform satisfies the three points, it should work with few/no changes.

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OICW

Member #4,069

November 2003

Ah well. I guess it's better than some hacking of Pascal memory to access video card.

Martin Kalbfuß

Member #9,131

October 2007

Niunio said:

I don't know if its possible to use GNU-Pascal

I don't think so. But you're not using any strange features, so it's possible.

A problem is, that an API, running with all tree compilers must be very minimalistic.
ISO Pascal is a joke. Only Extended ISO Pascal is good. But it's not supported by FreePascal. Delphi features are only partly supported by GNU Pascal. It would be very difficult to keep allego.pas compatible to all three compilers using advanced features.

Anyway,
Congrats!

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