I am not interested in filth.

Yet you seem perfectly content to pretend to know details about the game. It's not at all the way you describe it. You sound like someone claiming GTA has explicit images of mutilation and explicitly tells you to torture people.

If it wasn't clear, I have also played the game, and the above quote is entirely accurate. There is nothing that makes this game stand out from the crowd other than its name and the overblown hysteria it has garnered.

ITT: people spouting ignorant and uninformed moralfaggotry.

bamccaig, did you read SomethingAwful's review of it?

If there are people who fancy about killing they should go check their heads. I don't play Cod 4 because I fancy killing, but to practice my reflexes. But these types of sex games are for those who fantasize about raping girls (even children), so what can I say. Intended for sick freaks.

There are a lot of ways to practice reflexes that don't involve spraying enemy soldiers in the head.

Honestly, COD4 isn't going to make somebody want to kill people any more than RapeLay is going to make people want to rape people (and like I said, from what I've seen of the gameplay, it doesn't really scream "rape" to me, which I define as violent and forceful sexual assault).

When I play a game, the story the developers provide is usually a rough draft that I revise in my own fantasy as I play through the game. The developers may say I'm killing for sport, for example, but maybe I would instead rewrite that part of the story to rationalize that I had no choice or was doing good in some way. I would do the same thing while playing a game like this. The writers may say I'm violently raping a girl, but that wouldn't appeal to my fantasies. I would prefer something voluntary and would rewrite the story accordingly.

Or if the game was designed in such a way that there was no way around it, I just wouldn't play. Eminem once said in an interview (which I can't find online for the life of me...) that when he's watching something on TV that disgusts him he turns it off. He doesn't keep watching it. "This disgusts me, I think I'm going to watch it."^[1] The same is true of books, music, movies, and games. If somebody plays a game it's because it appeals to them on some level. The game will not create rapists. Real life does that, I'm afraid.

This thread simultaneously amuses and depresses me. Good job, everyone.

Ehhh, child porn is real. There're real child being abused. That's the difference. It's not about what he's fantasizing about, but about real child being involved.

Anyway, I played the game some time ago, and it sucks like most Illusion games. Most hentai games have at least one rape scene (and child sex scenes too, and even a mixture of both :O), so I really don't understand why all the discussion for this specific game. You may not believed me, but I've played a good amount of hentai games and I still haven't raped anyone nor feel the need for it

One data you may be interested: a good percentage of women have fantasies about being rapped. So that means women want to get rapped in real life?

PD: is it just me, or the spellchecker is very broken?

I agree, but one should know that non-real child porn is just as illegal(at least here in sweden, how are your laws?).

Imagine that by law you are not allowed to make or own any painting that looks like it contains children(under 18) having sex with something or posing sexually.. Not only does it occur all the time in movies, but the police simply ignore to block sites such as deviantart and other well known sites for some reason. It's like they've run out real child porn so to keep their job they have to pick on other kind of porn to look like they're make progress.. but blocking well known sites(devinatart anyone?) and movies would of course enlighting more people that they aren't as free as they think they are.

Of course no one would admit this is wrong beacuse that would make them look very bad, it might not have a huge impact on our lives but I still feel violated.

That's not what I said. Read it again.

(Spoiler: You're misrepresenting the content of the game, just like one would if one would say GTA contains scenes of wanton mutilation.)

Well, then I'll be sure to keep it away from you. Have you stopped beating your wife?

Doesn't the game put you in someone's shoes that commit rapes?

Have you stopped beating your penis? obviously not...

There are billions of people on this planet and they vary greatly. I imagine if you took a large enough sample and had them play a game where the objective was to rape people (whether that's the way RapeLay is setup or not), you'd have three groups of people:

• People who enjoy the game or actually find it to be a healthy way to satisfy their needs/imagination/fantasy

• People who don't enjoy the game or are repulsed by it

• People who's curiosity is peaked and tempts them to actually attempt something in real life

To be fair, this list would be the same for a shooting/killing game. For that reason alone, these raping games cannot be banned. However, for that last reason in the list (and if you don't believe that list item should exist, read the first sentence of this post), it cannot be mainstream media. Whether there's some kind of ID check or psyche test that has to be passed, there just has to be something to reduce the size of that last group.

Still, that actually wasn't the point in this case. He was sentenced earlier with fines, but was still able to get a job as a child doctor, because the hospital thought it was not their problem. It was only after the outrage of the parents who refused to send their child to that doctor which eventually lead his sacking... And I can understand those parents, really.

That's what I mean with that it depends on how the player sees the game. So I guess it is after all a question of if it encourages seeing raping as a normal activity...

You confuse freedom with promiscuity. A man's freedom ends where another man's freedom begins.

I don't insist on psychological tests or a license, that was a figure of speech. What I don't want to happen is an outbreak of rapping cases because some people "learned" through video games that it is ok to do this.

There is no guarantee that living someone to think for himself/herself will produce good results. Look what happened the last few years: we elected politicians that drove us to the edge of the cliff. Some people are not thinking rationally.

So do some people enjoy these games? i.e. do they like to rape women in their fantasies? I'd love to be more open, but I would like to hear some reasons about why should I be more open.