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axilmar
Member #1,204
April 2001

How? Why would it?

By allowing men to derive pleasure from raping women. If a person gets addicted to that kind of pleasure, then he might attempt it in real life.

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I'm still not sure what, exactly, you're suggesting

I suggest that either it should be banned or it should be exposed. Banning it may create a black market for it, but this means there is demand, which means that a percentage of the male population enjoys raping women. Exposing it may force the producing company to withdraw the game and perhaps make no other future attempts on such a game.

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by what precedent do you ban a computer game? And why would you?

You ban a computer game if it allows people to derive pleasure from others in unacceptable ways.

My question remains: is there a market for this game? are out there people that enjoy raping women, at least virtually?

alethiophile
Member #9,349
December 2007
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axilmar said:

My question remains: is there a market for this game? are out there people that enjoy raping women, at least virtually?

Probably. There are people out there that enjoy just about anything. Or: Why would rape be a problem, if nobody enjoyed it?

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You ban a computer game if it allows people to derive pleasure from others in unacceptable ways.

But the computer game doesn't. I repeat: There is no actual rape involved. If you're going to start banning games based on what they allow you to do in-game--why not GTA? Halo? Any of the FPSs? Are you going to make it illegal to make a game that allows you to do anything illegal in real life? For that matter, what about Mario?

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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006

axilmar said:

My question remains: is there a market for this game? are out there people that enjoy raping women, at least virtually?

I guess there are couples that role-play raping for real. Sick bastards...

You could also try replacing "raping women" with "killing people" and see what kind of difference it makes. I also guess it's more acceptable to rape the women in a hostile country after you have killed their husbands in battle...

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I agree with axilmar... all video games should be banned. Nothing good can come from them; they teach you nothing, yet let you fantasize about crime and dirty pleasure.

I hear your laughs. "What about Mario?" you say. Well, I had a good friend who was a normal person. You might be able to relate with me on that. Turned out he had a disorder (I forget the name) that made him susceptible to suicidal thoughts.

It just so happened that the first time Mario fell into a hole, he got a rush from that. A week later, he was going through more Mario lives than I thought possible. It didn't matter to him how he died... a goomba attack, a koopa swooping down from the sky, or even the flame from Bowser's castle (he usually couldn't last that long) would give him pleasure.

Apparently suicidal Mario wasn't enough for him. He hadn't returned my calls for a week, so I checked up on him. I walked into his bedroom, and there he was, hanging dead from the ceiling.

I called up Jack Thompson, but Nintendo bribed the courts with free Wiis, so nothing came of it.

axilmar
Member #1,204
April 2001

But the computer game doesn't. I repeat: There is no actual rape involved. If you're going to start banning games based on what they allow you to do in-game--why not GTA? Halo? Any of the FPSs? Are you going to make it illegal to make a game that allows you to do anything illegal in real life? For that matter, what about Mario?

If all people that play this game, and I mean 100% of players, can hold themselves back from committing rape in real life, then the game should not be banned. But if there is one, and I mean 1, person that commits rape because if this game, then it should be banned.

anonymous said:

I guess there are couples that role-play raping for real. Sick bastards...

They are not sick, because they both agreed to it.

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You could also try replacing "raping women" with "killing people" and see what kind of difference it makes.

I game that its purpose was to kill people for entertainment would be equally problematic like Rapelay.

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I also guess it's more acceptable to rape the women in a hostile country after you have killed their husbands in battle...

No, it's not.

I agree with axilmar... all video games should be banned. Nothing good can come from them; they teach you nothing, yet let you fantasize about crime and dirty pleasure.

I never said that. Just like in the other thread about c++, you just popped up with a worthless comment/flamebait. Don't you have something worth commenting to say? or do you think that you hurt my feelings with that comment? The only thing you achieve is to ridicule yourself.

And the rest of your comment is of the same low quality. Don't you have anything to say about rape? doesn't it concern you that your kids might be raped some day?

Oscar Giner
Member #2,207
April 2002
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axilmar said:

If all people that play this game, and I mean 100% of players, can hold themselves back from committing rape in real life, then the game should not be banned. But if there is one, and I mean 1, person that commits rape because if this game, then it should be banned.

Now aply that logic to everything, and tell me something that should not be banned.

Karadoc ~~
Member #2,749
September 2002
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axilmar said:

If all people that play this game, and I mean 100% of players, can hold themselves back from committing rape in real life, then the game should not be banned. But if there is one, and I mean 1, person that commits rape because if this game, then it should be banned.

That rule doesn't scale well with increasing population

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Suppose someone was so repulsed by the game that they would now take action when witnessing a rape as opposed to ignoring it as they used to?

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Timorg
Member #2,028
March 2002

axilmar said:

If all people that play this game, and I mean 100% of players, can hold themselves back from committing rape in real life, then the game should not be banned. But if there is one, and I mean 1, person that commits rape because if this game, then it should be banned.

What if the game wasn't the reason they were going to commit rape, they were going to rape someone, and they happened to download the game a day before and played it. It had no bearing on their decision to commit the act. To blame this game if any player of it goes out and rapes someone is too simplistic.

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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006

axilmar said:

I game that its purpose was to kill people for entertainment would be equally problematic like Rapelay.

So there are games that are not for entertainment? OK, perhaps there are some simulators for the military...

Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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The obvious solution here is get women to carry more guns.

anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006

They should also play more killing games to be ready to do it for real.

BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Maybe they should play rapelay themselves, so they can learn the strategies used against them.

Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Albin Engström
Member #8,110
December 2006
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axilmar said:

There is no guarantee that living someone to think for himself/herself will produce good results. Look what happened the last few years: we elected politicians that drove us to the edge of the cliff. Some people are not thinking rationally.

I've always seen american elections as one of the top ten "I'm not thinking for myself" result in the entire world, I know americans who wouldn't talk to their children or parents if they choose "the other party"!

axilmar said:

I don't insist on psychological tests or a license, that was a figure of speech. What I don't want to happen is an outbreak of rapping cases because some people "learned" through video games that it is ok to do this.

I've been paying gurochan a visit from time to time for a few years now and I'm pretty sure I haven't raped a hermaphrodite, killed him/her, and then let someone take a crap on hir corpse while I watch and eat popcorn, wait a minute.. it just came to me, maybe people want to be treated like that? No wait, that's probably not the case...
No person who can use their brain would think people accept raping simply by playing a raping game.. :P

axilmar said:

So do some people enjoy these games? i.e. do they like to rape women in their fantasies? I'd love to be more open, but I would like to hear some reasons about why should I be more open.

We are not all perfect humans like you are, some of us have feelings for certain things, and we have accepted those feelings, you should be more open beacuse I'm sure someone you know has something he or she has a thing for which you find very disgusting, and that person would hide that fact for his/her entire life in fear that you would hate him/her, if you don't want this person to feel lonely and being loved for something he/she isn't, then yes, you should be more open.

axilmar said:

If all people that play this game, and I mean 100% of players, can hold themselves back from committing rape in real life, then the game should not be banned. But if there is one, and I mean 1, person that commits rape because if this game, then it should be banned.

By that logic should we also ban everyone from life since that obviously isn't 100% safe either..

Karadoc said:

Karadoc didn't say that.

Sorry about that, don't know how your name got there..

axilmar said:

How can you know that?

He dosen't, in the same way you don't know fantasising about rape is bad.

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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axilmar said:

But if there is one, and I mean 1, person that commits rape because if this game, then it should be banned.

I'm with you 100% here. Any game that causes someone to do something bad should be banned. How can you put a price on saving one person from being raped or killed? To avoid even one bad thing from happening is priceless.

But I'm offended that you take my friend's death so lightly. If it weren't for Mario, he'd still be alive. And it doesn't stop with him, it goes on and on. For example, what about 9-year-old Damori Miles who died after imitating a video game? He tied a cape to his neck and tried to do a Jeff Hardy swan dive off the roof.

How can one person getting raped be worse than two people dieing? That's hard for me to comprehend.

Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Easy, it's a fate worse than death

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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Easy, it's a fate worse than death

Then kill the person who got raped. Now we have 2 dead people vs 1 dead person.

bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006

Isn't the aim of Mario to free the princess (who is probably under-age).

Oh that puts dirty thoughts in my mind.

Alianix
Member #10,518
December 2008
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Think of it this way, we all have those desires hidden under the surface of our psyche. Even if we don't have them now we had them once, it's in our history: murder, theft, bribary, rape, revenge. It happens everyday and it's been happened since the beginning of time. The reason it's a big deal now is because we have a defunct society in which most of our bestial desires are stupidly suppressed. The only release we get is from watching porn, movies, and playing violent games and such...In japan the porn industry are humongous unlike anywhere else, but this is how they keep the actual crime rates low...So those games may not be so bad, what's bad is suppressing our inherent desires for killing raping or whatever. Of course there is a healthy balance in all that too, and some people find it hard to keep it under control. Let them have it !

anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006

After playing a porn game, perhaps one is sort of disarmed. After playing a non-sexual violent game, I guess the adrenaline level stays high for a longer period of time.

I'm not much of a gamer, but it seems to me that for some time after watching an action movie, the aggression level remains higher for some time. One wouldn't get that aggressive without watching that movie.

The talk of violent games freeing one from stress and aggressiveness seems rather weird. You are not saying that you are saving lives in real life by playing them?

alethiophile
Member #9,349
December 2007
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anonymous said:

The talk of violent games freeing one from stress and aggressiveness seems rather weird.

How is it weird?

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You are not saying that you are saving lives in real life by playing them?

Not unless you think that without that release we'd automatically go out and murder someone. :P

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April 2000
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