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What's your native language?
Martin Kalbfuß
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October 2007
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OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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My primary language is Czech, obviously. I'm also fluent in English, in which I speak with american accent (can't tell you which one) which is something I'm not very proud of - I'd like to speak with british accent - and I accredit it to watching movies and TV Shows in original and mostly w/o subtitles.

On high school I was taught German. Sadly enough, today I understand a written word, I could write something with some effort towards mistake correction. I understand a little from spoken German, but I doubt I'd be able to speak. Though a week in Germany would probably brush off the rust from my German skills.

I know a little Czech.

You have my respect, because Czech isn't an easy language to learn, more so to speak, thanks to pronounciation of "r" and "ř" plus other characters with punctuation.

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jhuuskon
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April 2000
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Finnish is what is called an agglutinative language - the meaning of individual words are altered by suffixes attached to the root word, and not by other words. Also, you can stack the suffixes. e.g.
pallo - a ball
pallolla - with a/the ball
palloilla - with the balls
palloinensakaan - [not] even with one's balls

There are 15 noun cases and they can be stacked to a degree. So yeah, typing finnish wears your space bar less than most languages.

Also, you can make coherent sentences on the go as word order has very little role in meaning of a sentence and usually the best word order can be chosen solely for the purpose of emphasis.

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Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001

I had to copy this from an early thread, because of corrupted scandinavian letters:

Go Finnish! 15 cases! OTOH you can form new words out of old ones:

(fi: ) järjestys
(en: ) order

epäjärjestys
disorder

järjestää
organise

järjestelmä
system

järjestelmällistää
to systemise something

järjestelmällistyttää
to have something systemised by someone else

järjestelmällistämäisyys
the quality to systemise

järjestelmällistyttämäisyys
the quality to have something systemised by someone else

järjestelmällistyttämättömyys
the lack of quality to have something systemised by someone else

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyys
the lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellä
with the lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsä
with his (or her) lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkin
also with his (or her) lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkään
neither with his (or her) lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkään
neither with his (or her) lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else?

epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän
(doubtfully: ) neither with his (or her) lack of quality to have something unsystemised by someone else?

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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@Johan

You have just assured that I will never even attempt to learn Finnish.

Mika Halttunen
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November 2000
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Finnish is my native language. I understand and write English quite well, but I suck at speaking it.. I know some Swedish, but not very well. And, excluding a couple of Japanese words, that's it.

Neil Black: Don't worry, that's an extreme example, I don't think anybody uses those latter cases. Hopefully..

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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If I knew the language I would use those latter cases all the time.

Indeterminatus
Member #737
November 2000
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German natively.
English somewhat fluently.
Italian (nowadays I really can't speak it anymore, but I can still read it)
Latin (had it 6 years at school, still translating for the fun of it)
Russian a little bit (took a course at Uni, but I can barely remember anything beyond 'What's your name?' and 'Where is the next hospital/railway station, please?')
Japanese a little bit (currently learning it)
Esperanto (with limited vocabulary)
Riggerogg (a very local and synthetic language originally intent to help communication when totally wasted [the cognitive level and enunciation skills of a completely drunk fuck were the primary concerns])

So yeah. When I look at my friends, I'm the least language-proficient.

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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So yeah. When I look at my friends, I'm the least language-proficient.

If I succeed in learning German I'll know two languages, and I'll become the most language-proficient of my friends. Although I'll have to compete with the one who speaks Spanish non-fluently.

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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I speak Spanish natively, English well enough for others to understand me, got some knowledge about Portuguese (did a small course but didn't like it) and have been studying Japanese for a while.

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Crazy Photon
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July 2002
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Similar to ReyBrujo, native Spanish, fluent English, some Portuguese, a few Japanese words, hopes to learn Japanese and German someday.

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Vanneto
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May 2007

Slovenian is my primary language.

I can speak English fluently. I also understand and can speak German. This is pretty much it.

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Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001

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A really weird video to the sound of a kantele playing our national anthem, then follows a soundtrack with an actress reciting the poem of the anthem. In Finnish.

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Evert
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November 2000
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OICW said:

You have my respect, because Czech isn't an easy language to learn, more so to speak, thanks to pronounciation of "r" and "c" plus other characters with punctuation.

Pronunciation isn't really the problem (although words such as krk and prst are a bit weird and čtyři is a bit of a tongue-twister). Dutch has two sounds most foreigners (and some Dutch people ) have problems with: the hard g and the rolling r (it also has an interesting spectrum of vowel sounds). Being a fan of Dvořak and being brought up with the proper pronunciation also helps.
I cannot claim to have mastered the intricacies of the verb system, which is easily the most difficult part of trying to learn Czech. Of course, my real problem is vocabulary: I can (or could a few years ago) order stuff in a restaurant or bar and get bread from a bakery, but beyond that I quickly reach the end of my vocabulary.
An interesting side effect of knowing a little bit about the language: I can understand the names of the stops in the metro or tram. The last time I was in Prague was for the Astronomical Union General Assembly (the Pluto-conference) and I noticed many people couldn't work out what the next stop would be just from listening to the name of the stops.

CursedTyrant
Member #7,080
April 2006
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Polish is my native language. I speak English (I prefer British English) altough I also know Italian (still learning, but it's going well), Latin and a bit of Greek (the attic dialect, or whatever it's called, tough I don't know it as well as Latin. I am studying Classical Philology after all ), and I'm also trying to learn Esperanto (didn't learn it as of yet, since I'm just too lazy).

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Kibiz0r
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September 2005
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C++

Evert
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November 2000
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Latin and a bit of Greek (the attic dialect, or whatever it's called, tough I don't know it as well as Latin.

Oh, are we doing dead languages too?
In that case, I also know Latin and Greek (though my Greek is atrocious).

Neil Black
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October 2006
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Quote:

C++

I'm dumb!

bamccaig
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July 2006
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Evert
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November 2000
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The quote system seems to be confused. I never said C++...

Neil Walker
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April 2000
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Maybe it was your sub-conscience.

Evert said:

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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bamccaig said:

Evert didn't say that.

Ooh, my first bug in the new system!

Oscar Giner
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April 2002
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  • Spanish (native)

  • Catalan (almost native)

  • English

  • A bit of Japanese.

bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Ooh, my first bug in the new system!

He was, however, the first person to post a capital C. So perhaps Matthew's squirrels only check for alpha[numeric?] characters.

Neil Black
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October 2006
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bamccaig said:

So perhaps Matthew's squirrels only check for alpha[numeric?] characters.

In that case, I wonder if it would pick up a longer quote that contained C++ somewhere in the middle?



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