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water fight! |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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IIRC, an officer once explained that the reason harmless contact can still be considered illegal is to actually prevent the retaliation in some cases, which might not be so harmless. He also has the right to not be attacked in the park. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Going to ignore the fact that I destroyed your own point? With your point? -- |
Kitty Cat
Member #2,815
October 2002
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Quote: Getting splashed with even sticky water does not justify hitting another person. Didn't say him punching her was fully justified, but she did instigate the attack. If you do something out of line, there will be consequences. Should those consequences be less just because she's a girl? Given the size of the guy, I don't think he would've been too discriminating if another guy did it. -- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Going to ignore the fact that I destroyed your own point? There is also a tort article: Battery (tort). Battery (tort) said: At common law, battery is the tort of intentionally (or, in Australia, negligently) and voluntarily bringing about an unconsented harmful or offensive contact with a person or to something closely associated with them (e.g. a hat, a purse). It is a form of trespass to the person.
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Except it was related to battery, not Battery (tort). And in the first point, it requires an intent to cause bodily harm, and in the second it requires negligence causing bodily harm. Neither of which happened. Quote: Should those consequences be less just because she's a girl? Given the size of the guy, I don't think he would've been too discriminating if another guy did it. Everyone else on your side seems to be saying its justified and she deserved it. -- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Except it was related to battery, not Battery (tort). I didn't expect there to be a separate article for assault (tort). Thomas Fjellstrom said: Everyone else on your side seems to be saying its justified and she deserved it. What did she deserve? She was there for a water fight. Somehow I don't think pouring the juice on her would have mattered to her at all: she probably dressed for the event and was already wet! -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: What did she deserve? She was there for a water fight. Exactly. She wasn't there for a bar brawl. -- |
Kitty Cat
Member #2,815
October 2002
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Quote: Everyone else on your side seems to be saying its justified and she deserved it. She deserved getting retaliated against. And I wouldn't call the guy a thug because he punched her. -- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Exactly. She wasn't there for a bar brawl. And he wasn't there for a water fight, let alone a juice fight. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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i was grown up not to hit girls too. I was going to the club with a coz he decided he wanted to check these girls before we went out.i think we was talking about having buts one girl insisted that if you cant grip your behind while standing up you don't have a but so she was griping my but. then the other girl and a comment about me not having a but. then i countered her comment and told her im a guy it ok if i have a small but, but your girl girl and you have nothing thats when she throw the drink on me and tried to run i did not get mad i just took the ice that was in the cup and put them in her shirt. key notes: 1. i was around 16-17 years old 2. she is my friends sister so she new me previously and we always go at it or i doubt she would have put the drink on me. this guy should have just took the bottle from her and used it on her. i did not have access to more drink because it was a cup. wow |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: And he wasn't there for a water fight, let alone a juice fight. Then why was he here? And why did he not walk around the place people were having a water fight in? If he didnt want to get wet, he shouldn't have gone into the water fight -- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Then why was he here? And why did he not walk around the place people were having a water fight in? If he didnt want to get wet, he shouldn't have gone into the water fight I didn't realize this group of youths had rented the park... The guy was probably just hanging out in the park, as people do. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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and stuck around while people started throwing water around? And expected to not get hit? -- |
Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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I can't believe that this is even being debated. The fact that people here would support, encourage and even endorse punching a girl in the face for some reckless fun that got out of hand is just shameful. Yes the girl stepped out of the bounds of a reasonable water fight, but the fact that anyone here calls the "man"'s (and I am using the word man here only in the sense that he is male, and most certainly not a man) actions reasonable is deplorable. If he was a real man, he would have had the patience to use words to tell her what she did was unacceptable. If he was a real man, he would have had the forgiveness to let the act go as it was just fun that got out of control. At most he had the right to take the juice away, not to hit her. My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: and stuck around while people started throwing water around? And expected to not get hit? He has every right to be there as they do. Assuming he was there first, they should be the ones to move. Assuming they were there first (which seems unlikely IMO), I can see him expecting to get sprayed with water, but not juice (or fizzy drink, as the article put it). -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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i have resurch this time of new aggression towards females and i be leave it has come about because of progress of female equity and the way that that equity has changed females wow |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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With logic like that everyone should just start punching everyone Getting hit with "fizzy drink" wasn't his fault, but hitting someone else like a fucking idiot was his fault, and I'd like to see him get charged for it. You don't go around hitting people. -- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Quote: I can't believe that this is even being debated. You're absolutely right! Once this woman assaulted the man, she lost all of her privileges. Go around NYC and throw juice on everybody who is bigger than you; try playing the "Oooh, I'm an innocent, defenseless person" card. See how quick that lands you underneath a bus. I've done some research on this: give a woman an inch, and she'll take a mile. (It's especially true with money.) |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: You don't go around hitting people. He didn't just randomly hit someone. He hit someone who attacked him. Perhaps innocently, but we don't have very much information so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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He hit someone WHO SPLASHED WATER on him. Next time you get water of any kind splashed on you, go to the police and try and charge the person. See if you don't get laughed out of the station. -- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: He hit someone WHO SPLASHED WATER on him. Next time you get water of any kind splashed on you, go to the police and try and charge the person. See if you don't get laughed out of the station. It was FIZZY DRINK. And maybe that's why he took it into his own hands. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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The only one who assaulted anyone was the man. At no time was he ever in any way in physical danger yet he chose to strike her with force. He's a pathetic failure of a responsible human being. My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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He's my hero. |
piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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what if her boy friend told her to poor the drink on him. how would it look then? wow |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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It doesn't even look like a punch to me... -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
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