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amarillion
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January 2001
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TINS will be held this year Friday August 29 to Monday September 1. The official TINS '08 site is now online, go and register now!

What is TINS?

TINS is a speedhack-like competition where you have to write a game within a single weekend (72 hours), from scratch, using Allegro. To prevent cheating, some special, random restrictions will be generated and announced just before the start (e.g. last year's rules). During the weekend, all entrants maintain a log (e.g. last year's log) so you can see all the activity live. It's a good way to learn a lot about game programming in a short time.

Go check out the site and register ;D

Ben Delacob
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August 2005
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I'm surprised no one has posted yet, considering how many people have been anticipating the return of TINS! This sounds like fun if I have the time.

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OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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Shame I don't know if I'll have a time. But I surely will sign in if I manage to find time.

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I'm surprised no one has posted yet, considering how many people have been anticipating the return of TINS!

Well you know, it's summer, everybody is out.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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Ben Delacob said:

I'm surprised no one has posted yet, considering how many people have been anticipating the return of TINS!

Don't look at me. I'm officially out of these things nowadays. :)

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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gnolam: TINS is not Speedhack. ;)

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amarillion
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January 2001
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Great, it seems there is some interest in the competition. I know it's still a long way but don't worry, I'll post some reminders later.

StevenVI
Member #562
July 2000
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I wish it were earlier. I hope I can participate.

On the site, the "about me" box, all formatting is stripped. Kind of annoying, but I suppose understandable. I don't know if you want to do anything about that or not.

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Onewing
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August 2005
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Out of all the weekends of 2008, that might be one of the four that I'm actually scheduled to do something. :-/

Sounds about right though, crappy year.

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amarillion
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January 2001
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On the site, the "about me" box, all formatting is stripped. Kind of annoying, but I suppose understandable. I don't know if you want to do anything about that or not.

It's on my list to add support for a.cc-style markup tags, but it might take some time before I get around to implementing that properly. So don't hold your breath for it.

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Out of all the weekends of 2008, that might be one of the four that I'm actually scheduled to do something.

You might have better luck with speedhack, it should be fairly soon after TINS (Probably October)

OICW
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November 2003
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You might have better luck with speedhack, it should be fairly soon after TINS (Probably October)

Which is kinda unussual. But I think there were some reasons why TINS didn't happen in the spring (which if I remember correctly was the normal schedule).

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Goalie Ca
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July 2002
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TINS will be held this year Friday August 29 to Monday September 1

I must admit i've always wanted to do one of these things but have been too busy. My excuse this year.. I'm moving places and already have parties scheduled from the wednesday to tuesday that weekend.

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Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

Yaaaay!

Matthew, can you announce yet what the planned range of dates for SpeedHack will be? I need to plan all my competitionage and holidays and stuff :)

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Pedro Avelar Gontijo
Member #5,372
January 2005
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TINS is up? Yay, it's been a long time! When was my last post here?
Anyway, no time for nostalgia. In the unlikely case I'll be free that weekend, I'm considering joining the competition myself, besides helping other people with graphics and music. In order to do that, I'll need a slave programmer to do the dirty work for me. Anyone willing to submit?

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Oh, how do the rules work in TINS? Are they suggested like in speedhack, or are they dictated?

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Bruce Perry
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April 2000

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amarillion
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January 2001
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Oh, how do the rules work in TINS? Are they suggested like in speedhack, or are they dictated?

Not sure, a bit of both? I don't have a fancy online rule database like Matthew, but most rules that I have in my list were suggested here on the forums of a.cc. I have hundreds of different rules in my collection, from which a few will be picked randomly by a little perl script. Maybe I'll start another rule suggestion thread in a few weeks. I can always use more rules.

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But I think there were some reasons why TINS didn't happen in the spring (which if I remember correctly was the normal schedule).

The reason is simple: I was too busy at work during spring. TINS isn't always at the same time of the year (neither is Speedhack)

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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TINS isn't always at the same time of the year (neither is Speedhack)

Speedhack is known to rotate on a 13-14 month schedule. But thats just because its almost always one month or more late each year ;)

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Jeff Bernard
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December 2005
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Hmmm, hopefully I'll be free the weekend of the 29th, I don't really plan that far ahead, so...

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Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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Now wait a minute, "TINS is a SpeedHack like competition". TINS means Tins Is Not Speedhack is Speedhack like, sounds screwy to me. But I'll sign up but my college may keep me from being able to do it.

kenmasters1976
Member #8,794
July 2007

I'm considering to join. I've never entered TINS (or Speedhack). Depending on the rules I may or may not be able to submit an entry, but if I don't enter now...

I've read the FAQ and still I have to ask about the code reuse. Of course fair-game is the only thing that prevents someone from cheating. Then, I have some code here and there that might help, but it is a real mess. Even if I upload it, I doubt anyone might find it useful. Should I really, absolutely need to upload it?.

Johan Halmén
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September 2001

When will we have TINT?

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OICW
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November 2003
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The reason is simple: I was too busy at work during spring. TINS isn't always at the same time of the year (neither is Speedhack)

As I said, there were reasons. Well if I think about it again I realised that both are moving, but I don't remember that they were both this close. Anyway this is just academical discussion (I was asking/commenting out of curiosity).

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TINS isn't always at the same time of the year (neither is Speedhack)
Speedhack is known to rotate on a 13-14 month schedule. But thats just because its almost always one month or more late each year ;)

Yes, that's right, two or three years ago it was happening during august. And now it will be held in october (or between september and october) IIRC.

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amarillion
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January 2001
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No worries, I wasn't upset or anything

14 people registered already, that's looking good. Of course the number of entrants doesn't say much about the number of entries that will be submitted in the end, but still...

Pedro Avelar Gontijo
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January 2005
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Cool. So I can suggest some rules if I want to :) it's just that there's a rather small chance that they will be picked.

I think a poll system is more fun, though! Because even if everyone has shockingly contrastive tastes, the chance they will be satisfied with the rules is bigger than if those were picked randomly. How difficult would it be to pull out a basic poll system? I would offer to try if I still remembered much about coding...

And again, because I don't remember my C and I want to make my "offer" clear: I'm joining this year's competition myself, but I can't write code. So I'm hoping that someone pops up to do the code for me, which means getting the graphics and music and just needing to focus on the code. I know it usually works the other way 'round, with programmers doing everything and getting support from artists, but I like doing things the wrong way :) and I wanted to have my own game idea this time. It doesn't actually change much in the end... anyone up for the challenge?

Oh, and this time too, if I get the chance, I'll try to help other people lacking music and graphics. Just be sure to post/log on IRC!

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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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I enjoyed Speedhack last year, so I'll probably go sign up for TINS right after this post.

Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

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