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Airline Said Her Outfit Was Too Revealing
Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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There's a difference between going to the beach and going on an airplane. Because an outfit is tolerated in one place doesn't mean it should in another.

But yeah, I agree. It's hard to believe that this was even an issue, especially as described by the woman.

And even beyond that, if you don't feel you are dressed inappropriately, why are you so concerned about what someone else says about you? Typical woman, I guess. I mean if you tell a 75 pound 18 year old that she's fat, she'll start to cry.

HardTranceFan
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June 2006
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There's a difference between going to the beach and going on an airplane. Because an outfit is tolerated in one place doesn't mean it should in another.

That reminds me of this amusing TV advert. :D

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Neil Walker
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April 2000
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And of course, it's only in America that you turn a minor incident into a full blown million dollar lawsuit ;)

As for not working, I think it's due to Microsoft's dodgy website coding as it works fine, oddly enough, under IE.

This is what you get with firefox for the whole page:
http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/593151

This is what you get with IE, notice the minor addition of the entire contents of the page ;)
http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/593152

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ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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As I said, it works fine enough for me (other than the playing bar not moving):

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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[MSN Video sucks...]

I have no control over the video site so don't complain to me. I didn't care enough to try to find it elsewhere, but that doesn't stop you from trying to. Bitching to me about MSN video not working on x browser in y platform is useless because that site has nothing to do with me.

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[That outfit isn't too revealing...]

How many agreeing with this statement have daughters? Sure, she wasn't fully nude and oiled up, but that doesn't mean her outfit was appropriate either.

manjula said:

so that's why the girl you are stalking is scared of you. If she wears a small skirt, you may rape her because she deserves it for tempting you with her nude legs.

I didn't say I condone rape under these conditions. I just said I have no sympathy. There are people in the world that would take the opportunity. I never said that a short skirt excuses rape though.

And what do legs have to do with anything? :-/

Interviewer said:

If you were so humiliated, why did you get back on the return flight wearing the same outfit?

If she was so humiliated, why dress that way in the first place?

Matthew Leverton said:

The first thing she does when she stands up is pull her skirt down some more. If you have to pull your skirt down every time you stand up, then maybe you should just wear one that's a bit longer.

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And if you have to cross your legs while you sit down, maybe you should just wear one that's a big longer.

Exactly.

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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How many agreeing with this statement have daughters?

She isn't a 14 year old girl.

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LennyLen
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December 2004
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Bitching to me about MSN video not working on x browser in y platform is useless because that site has nothing to do with me.

Why do you assume that everyone is bitching at you? Ever coinsider that they're bitching in general and that the world doesn't revolve around you?

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I just said I have no sympathy.

But you still have no sympathy for a woman who gets raped, whether or not you condone it. That does make you, by most people's standards, a complete asshole.

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If she was so humiliated, why dress that way in the first place?

Because she lives in a hot climate, and a lot of young women from that region dress in the same way. What was humilitaing for her was the way in which the airline official dealt with it - in public, not in a discrete manner.

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The first thing she does when she stands up is pull her skirt down some more. If you have to pull your skirt down every time you stand up, then maybe you should just wear one that's a bit longer.

Perhaps you need to spend more time around women in skirts. Skirts of any length can ride up when you sit down and often need to be adjusted when you stand up again.

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And if you have to cross your legs while you sit down, maybe you should just wear one that's a big longer.

Again, spend more time in female company. Many women cross their legs, whether they have to or not.

bamccaig
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July 2006
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LennyLen said:

Why do you assume that everyone is bitching at you? Ever coinsider that they're bitching in general and that the world doesn't revolve around you?

<sarcasm>
No. That's silly.* ::)
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* IIRC, the original comments about the site were addressed to my taste in Web sites.

piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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There is nothing wrong with her out fit. it dose not even look sexaly appealing. some woman who's husband don't like her be cause she is out of shape. or it could be some homo is what started this

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LennyLen
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December 2004
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IIRC, the original comments about the site were addressed to my taste in Web sites.

No, the original comment was "i didn't even know microsoft had a video site.. but of course it sucks just like everything else they've ever tried."

If it had been something like "why're you watching MSN videos, dweeb?" then I could see why you would take it personally.

Slartibartfast's comment could be misconstrued as a personal attack, possibly, if you're really insecure.

Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001

They said:

This is a family flight. Your dress is too provocative.

??? I would understand "provocative" if they would have said it was a flight for Super Bowl or Brittish soccer fans. Were they thinking of all the poor daddies trying not to stair while their wives were looking?

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HoHo
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April 2004
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Many women cross their legs, whether they have to or not.

Are you saying there actualy exists women who do not cross their legs while wearing skirt and sitting :o

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Slartibartfast
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June 2007
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Skirts of any length can ride up when you sit down and often need to be adjusted when you stand up again.

The same is true about pants, and pretty much any article of clothing. (though probably not as much as for skirts)

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Slartibartfast's comment could be misconstrued as a personal attack

You think so?
Well, to avoid any doubt, I was merely inquiring about the existence of a link to the same interview on a website that actually works, no personal attacks or anything.

X-G
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December 2000
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None of this changes the fact that bamccaig is a disgusting donkeyfuck. And yes, you bet your donkey this is a personal attack.

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m c
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December 2004
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nah he's not, unless he actualey realisticly meant that, in which case he's just a bit of a dickhead, oh and a coward perhaps?

Either a bit of insecurity and cowardice, or sociopathy... i don't know I'm not a psychiatrist, but i was thinking either a sociopath and unable to understand, or feels insecure about the topic and would blame the victim rather than judge the rapist, because he's scared of possibly provoking the sort of person that might cause "socially uncomfortable" situations such as raping someone?

So makes a cheap joke-like comment to that effect rather than say something decisive?

That is the personal impression that i was left with. I didn't think much of it, i even chuckled a bit. But seeing as everyone else voices their opinion...

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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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I think that's funny. All the headlines say she was "escorted off the flight" "not allowed to fly" "too sexy to fly" etc, yet she was still allowed to fly. ::)

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Because an outfit is tolerated in one place doesn't mean it should in another.

I don't understand why that statement would be true, except maybe the shoes/shirt thing in restaurants.

Reminds me of a Mad magazine cartoon I saw back in the '70's, a girl tells another girl "Thanks for letting me borrow this swimsuit, it's beautiful", and the second girl says "That's not a swimsuit, it's underwear" whereupon the first girl runs shrieking from the room in embarrassment.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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LennyLen said:

blah blah blah

Whether or not women like to cross their legs is irrelevant. If your skirt is so short that you have to cross your legs—even while in the act of sitting down—to prevent people from seeing all the way up to your crotch, then yes, it is a bit revealing. That's pretty basic.

And yes, if you are so adamant that your attire is completely "family safe" as she was in the video, then you have absolutely no grounds to be embarrassed about anything. If, however, you realize you are dressed like a skank and somebody points it out, then perhaps you have reason to be embarrassed.

For example, your public, snide remarks about me being unfamiliar with women due to my supposed lack of contact with them doesn't bother me a bit, because your opinion is completely baseless. And I'm even in a worse position than this woman, because at least the people on the plane could see her and judge for themselves.

And no, I don't think she was dressed in a way the she should be confronted by the staff, but I do firmly believe if you want to dress like a skank then you should embrace it and not be embarrassed when somebody points it out, even publicly. It's not like anybody didn't notice before that. :P

X-G
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December 2000
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Embarrassment can easily arise simply from the fact that you are being publicly scolded by an airline officer, regardless of whether you think you are at fault or not.

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Michael Jensen
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October 2002
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Dustin, that image was amazing -- probably the highlight of this thread.

As far as the actual topic goes: I've seen girls in church dressed cuter than that... and hell, no one raped them... ::) er, not that I ever noticed I mean... :-/

and fuck, what's wrong with rape anyway? I read somewhere a list of famous people who were bastard children of raped mothers and the list had some pretty impressive candidates, being raped practically insures that you'll have kids who grow up to become badasses*. And so what: most women fantasize about it anyway! :o

  • = Only if you are a female who was raped in a place that made you pregnant, and only if you keep them. ;D

edit: On a constructive note, I learned something while reading this thread: wearetheborg and manjula are not the same person. ... Well, not that I know of; but I mean, I had always just associated that person as the one female on a.cc and always thought they were the same person. :)

Mark Oates
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March 2001
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and ***, what's wrong with rape anyway? I read somewhere a list of famous people who were bastard children of raped mothers and the list had some pretty impressive candidates, being raped practically insures that you'll have kids who grow up to become badasses*. And so what: most women fantasize about it anyway!

You just ensured this thread will never, ever die. Thanks >:(

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Michael Jensen
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October 2002
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Oh, believe me, it was my pleasure. 8-)

William Labbett
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March 2004
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there's a phrase (which might only be English), "Making a mountain out of a molehill.".
That's my comment.

Michael Jensen
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October 2002
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Molehills would be mountains if people were ants. and they'd* be more fun to play with too.

edit: disambiguation * = people.

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wearetheborg
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June 2003

Matthew said:

Whether or not women like to cross their legs is irrelevant. If your skirt is so short that you have to cross your legs—even while in the act of sitting down—to prevent people from seeing all the way up to your crotch, then yes, it is a bit revealing. That's pretty basic.

Not true! I wear skirts that come up to just above the knees. I still cross my legs when I sit down because when I sit down, the skirt goes up a little. If I didn't cross my legs, then I would be creating an awkward situation for myself. I wouldn't call that kind of skirt revealing. 8-)

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On a constructive note, I learned something while reading this thread: wearetheborg and manjula are not the same person. ... Well, not that I know of; but I mean, I had always just associated that person as the one female on a.cc and always thought they were the same person.

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