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Sun revolves around Earth, say 56%
Kibiz0r
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September 2005
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMFsuBlkoIQ

Excuse me while I weep for humanity.

Archon
Member #4,195
January 2004
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He still won 1500 euros. That should have been one of the first questions (in the break for the first safe winning).

Although, there was someone in the Australian edition who got the first question wrong even though the host edged him on "Is that your final answer?". I think it was something about which continent a particular mountain is on.

Neil Black
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October 2006
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See, Americans aren't the only stupid ones. :P

Kris Asick
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July 2001

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Simon Parzer
Member #3,330
March 2003
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What, it's not the sun? ???

ngiacomelli
Member #5,114
October 2004

That's nothing. I was flicking through TV yesterday morning and came across UK Big Brother where a contestant asked, in all seriousness, 'Did you know that the moon is bigger than the universe?'

The woman he was speaking to seemed to believe him.

Slartibartfast
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June 2007
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Jonatan Hedborg
Member #4,886
July 2004
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:'(:-[:'(:-[>:(:-X:(::):-/

Can't really say anything else ???

nonnus29
Member #2,606
August 2002
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It's not that surprising. Most people never think about anything past the stupid drama in their lives. So even if they knew something at one time, they've long forgotten it. Kinda like me with cars; I used to work on cars a lot, but it's been so long ago, now I couldn't distinguish a rachet from a box end wrench.

gnolam
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March 2002
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One can only hope that people were answering "The Sun" out of spite. But I doubt it: :P

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind06/c7/fig07-07.htm

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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

"The Universe began with a huge explosion. {True}"

We dont know if that is true. Its a fucking theory. Its not a fact. Its not proven. There are many theories on how the Universe was created. It was me! I AM GOD. Joke aside, it still crazy to say its true. It depends on personal opinion.

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nonnus29
Member #2,606
August 2002
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Oh boy, here we go.....

gnolam
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March 2002
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Vanneto said:

"The Universe began with a huge explosion. {True}"

We dont know if that is true. Its a fucking theory. Its not a fact. Its not proven. There are many theories on how the Universe was created.

Oh Eris, not again. ::)
Every single law of physics is a theory. Every item on that list is a theory. Please read up on what the word means.

Vanneto said:

Joke aside, it still crazy to say its true. It depends on personal opinion.

No. The specifics of exactly what happened in the absolute beginning are debated, but cosmic expansion is very, very real.

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Vanneto
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May 2007

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Every single scientific fact is a theory. Every item on that list is a theory. Please read up on what the word means.

True, but everything has more theories. How are you going to know which one is true?

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X-G
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December 2000
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Read up on what the word "theory" means. It does not mean "guess". It does not mean "hypothesis", "conjecture", or "suggestion". When talking about science, a theory is a consistent model for how some naturally observable phenomenon works that is solid, sound, and capable of predicting how things will go in the future. It is for all intents and purposes the strongest possible explanation for a particular phenomenon. Gravitation is a theory, yet I don't see anyone bringing forth any credible "alternatives".

Other theories: Thermodynamics, electromagnetic theory, quantum mechanics, plate tectonics... pretty much anything you can calculate.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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True, but everything has more theories. How are you going to know which one is true?

... and out comes the high school philosophy. As I suspect that any attempt to explain the scientific method will be met with crude attempts at phenomenology, I will instead proceed to ignore you in this thread and hope that others do the same.

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Too late.

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X-G
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December 2000
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Yeah, I may come to regret it, but you know what a blue-eyed optimist I can be. :P

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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These are awfully passionate responses considering the word 'theory" isn't on the page. It says "true". It lies. So stuff it.

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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

@gnomal, I was just trying to point out that we arent 100% true that it really was "a big explosion". So saying that its true is stupid still. Its a big guess. Period.

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X-G
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December 2000
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Okay, now that the idiots have come out in full force, I'm just going to take gnolam's advice. There's just no arguing with people who have their head in the sand and whose concept of "reason" extends as far as "the pink unicorns did it". :P

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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My thoughts exactly, actually. :) I wasn't at the beginning of the universe but I believe it exploded because scientists told me to! Gnolam's page says it's true so it must be! ZOMFG people don't believe my theory so I'm starting a church right now!

/sarcasm off

Seriously, what's the point of quizzing people on things they have zero first-hand knowledge or evidence for (mostly because they don't care and it has no impact on their lives), and then mocking them when they don't instantly agree with or believe the theories others come up with? Maybe they're stupid and uneducated. On the other hand, maybe they don't just listen to the first thing they're told just because it's "science". Maybe they liked challenging their inept middle-grade school science teacher. Maybe they like thinking about alternative theories. maybe they like messing with you. Maybe they just don't give a rip. But hey, mocking people is fun and elitist. On with it then.

EDIT: In the zealot's defense, it's "true" that each thing listed on the page is a scientific theory. That may be all they're saying, and that much is correct. Watching X-G and gnolam jump up and start preaching was still funny though. :)

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Samuel Henderson
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August 2003
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I'm assuming that the woman in video was his wife. She knew the right answer and seemed very disappointed.

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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

You call me an idiot because I dont believe that the Big bang happened? Well, if I am an idiot for having a diffrent opinion, and being right. ( I am, I assure you that there is no 100% proof it happened. ) Then you are an idiot at not respecting that. Plus youre an asshole.

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Slartibartfast
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June 2007
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I wasn't at the beginning of the universe but I believe it exploded because scientists told me to!

I believe that "The scientists* told me so" (or rather, a slightly more complex version of that sentence) is reason enough to believe something.
The reason is that scientists*, unlike suppliers of other theories (like intelligent design) have a lot of accomplishments and abilities under their belt.
For example, scientists* can predict the rate at which heat will pass through a conductive rod, can a priest** do that? Scientists* can calculate how fast a braking car will stop, can a priest** do that? (etc.)
In a slightly naive simple version of things you could say that "I believe scientists* because their magic is stronger than that of other people".
So yeah, I "naively" believe scientists*.

As for the "I believe X, but how can you be sure?" crowd, how can you be sure of anything? How can you be sure you even existed a millisecond ago? How can you be sure you aren't mind controlled by green martians? (etc.)
The answer is, you can't.
And this is why True/False doesn't mean 100% without a single doubt True/False, but rather more like "True enough".

  • - I don't actually mean all scientists, or any specific scientist. I'm referring more to theories that are widely accepted and believed to be true by the scientific community.

** - A priest was just an example, I don't mean specifically any member of any religion, but mostly none-scientists. I used priest just because ID (which is one example of a dispute between scientists and some other people) is a religion based theory.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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For example, scientists* can predict the rate at which heat will pass through a conductive rod, can a priest** do that? Scientists* can calculate how fast a braking car will stop, can a priest** do that? (etc.)

Anyone with the correct training, or in this day and age anyone who can look it up on the Internet, can do either of these things. It's got nothing to do with the person, it's the information.

I might believe a scientist at face value depending on what he says, but if I call him on it he better be able to provide some evidence. If his evidence fails, I call BS on him. Like I would to anyone else in life, I suppose.

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