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clovekx
Member #3,479
April 2003
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Quote: if you ban his ip You cannot ban an IPv4 address, because of NAT and dynamic allocation:
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GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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Heh , He could always ban his dns . But that will never forbid him to go on another one's computer, a school computer, a cyber, ... there are many way to 'stay alive' ;-p EDIT: edited while you posted your answer "Code is like shit - it only smells if it is not yours" |
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clovekx
Member #3,479
April 2003
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If there is any. Some ISP's doesnt have DNS set for their users, which also brings problems to that users. EDIT: And still you cannot ban anybody who is behind NAT. --- |
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James Stanley
Member #7,275
May 2006
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Quote: because of ISPs NAT
ISP's do not NAT... |
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CGamesPlay
Member #2,559
July 2002
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ISPs typically do not, but nothing prevents them from doing so. And ISPs may block servers regardless (stupid ISPs). In any case, if Allegro.cc were to block one of the IPs I connect from, it would disable access not only from my school, but from the county-wide public school system! And then on the other side of the coin, some ISPs with dynamic addresses rarely change it. One of the larger ones here, in fact, won't ever give you a new one until your MAC Address changes. -- Ryan Patterson - <http://cgamesplay.com/> |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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There are many ISPs outside of North America that DO NAT their users. Hundreds of users on a single NATed IP. Scares me to think about it. My ISP does have dynamic IPs, but its Dynamic IPs are as static as their Static IPs. Generally the only times an IP change is ever seen is when a Cable Node is split, or when you change your customer id for some reason (it used to be based on mac addr, but its now based on your customer id, so you always get the same IP/DNS). -- |
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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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The question is, how many of those acronyms do the people you're talking to understand? I know I'm glad your not talking to me...
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GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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ISP : Internet Service Provider You could have done some Google research. "Code is like shit - it only smells if it is not yours" |
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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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I wasn't expecting an actual explaination, and I won't remember any of those anyway, which is why I didn't Google it.
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HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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Then why did you ask in the first place? __________ |
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GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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Possumdude0 said:
[quote Possumdude0]
I wasn't expecting an actual explaination, and I won't remember any of those anyway, which is why I didn't Google it. Heeeeh ... So it is the time for that ... bleh, this topic is going to death. Possumdude0 -> Useless_Post_Count+= 2; GullRaDriel -> Useless_Post_Count+= 1; ... "Code is like shit - it only smells if it is not yours" |
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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: I will also contact the DCMA on this matter if it gets any worse. I'm series about issues like these. Serious enough to go to court over it If you're serious about it, then you should learn what the DCMA is. You can't contact a piece of legislation.
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Samuel Henderson
Member #3,757
August 2003
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Quote: Not really, we had the hilarious dude that tried to cybersex0r allegro.cc I remember that. There wasn't really a whole lot of arguing going on between their members though. They mostly just laughed at us. Does anyone (from here) who made an account on their forums still visit/post there? ================================================= |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I would ban an ISP if it took out a lamer. I even have some entire countries (ie: Nigeria) banned. And plus, a.cc has an authentication ban such that even if someone in the same household gets banned, you could still access the site. Furthermore, avoiding bans via proxy doesn't help either because you'll just get them banned too. |
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Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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Once you attain Grandmaster status (like me), you find your tolerances for Leetness go dangerously low.. |
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CGamesPlay
Member #2,559
July 2002
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Quote: And plus, a.cc has an authentication ban such that even if someone in the same household gets banned, you could still access the site. So you have an IP ban that prevents the creation of new accounts, and a user-account ban on specific accounts, and when you are banned, you are still given the ability to log into the site? -- Ryan Patterson - <http://cgamesplay.com/> |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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It requires a valid username and password to access any page. |
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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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Quote: Then why did you ask in the first place?
Because I'm lonely...
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Quote: It requires a valid username and password to access any page.
Quote: So you have an IP ban that prevents the creation of new accounts, and a user-account ban on specific accounts, and when you are banned, you are still given the ability to log into the site? So you can hop on from a proxy or another IP address to create a new account and use it? Again, if it's used civily (is that a word?) then it probably doesn't matter much. |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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In the short term, the network is usually blocked at the firewall. So there's that added inconvenience. Most people who are banned are spammers or trolls who have no desire to come back later, so it's as effective as it needs to be. |
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James Stanley
Member #7,275
May 2006
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Quote: There are many ISPs outside of North America that DO NAT their users
Really? |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I have heard of some in Europe (non UK, since BT seems to have a nice lock in there -- |
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Myrdos
Member #1,772
December 2001
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Quote:
Really? There was a guy complaining about his ISP using NAT a while back on this very forum. He couldn't figure out how to host a game. As I recall, he was in South America. __________________________________________________ |
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FMC
Member #4,431
March 2004
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Fastweb in Italy [FMC Studios] - [Caries Field] - [Ctris] - [Pman] - [Chess for allegroites] |
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Marco Radaelli
Member #3,028
December 2002
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FMC said:
Fastweb in Italy
Yeah
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And if you use a proxy to secretly access the site as a civil user, what's it matter?
