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Ariesnl
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November 2002
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nope odin needs you for ragnarok ;D

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Torbjörn Josefsson
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GullRaDriel: That's the spirit! If you're going to be religious, don't give in to Big Religion conglomerates - support your local dealer of salvation!

There must be hundreds of interesting faiths that simply have gone out of fashion, and are now due for another round of evaluation.

For "some reason" 99.9% belong to the religion that everybody else has where they happen to be born - which is a pretty clear indication that "faith" is mostly due to social circumstances, not any individual thinking.

If I ran into someone (here in sweden) who had decided for him/herself that the religion of the aboriginies of australia was the correct one, I'd actually consider listening to that person, because his/her faith was at least not simply handed down to them from their parents/community

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Ariesnl
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GullRaDriel: That's the spirit! If you're going to be religious, don't give in to Big Religion conglomerates - support your local dealer of salvation!

There must be hundreds of interesting faiths that simply have gone out of fashion, and are now due for another round of evaluation.

For "some reason" 99.9% belong to the religion that everybody else has where they happen to be born - which is a pretty clear indication that "faith" is mostly due to social circumstances, not any .

If I ran into someone (here in sweden) who had decided for him/herself that the religion of the aboriginies of australia was the correct one, I'd actually consider listening to that person, because his/her faith was at least not simply handed down to them from their parents/community

Now here's some guy with brains..
you almost sound like a witch ;D

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Matthew Leverton
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To turn the question around, what made you pick Chrsitianity? How did you come to think like that?

I think the common response from a Christian would be:

"What an odd question. I was raised without the preconception of there not being a god and not only do I see no reason to change that belief, I see Christianity (ie, there is a God) something so clear and self-evident that I sometimes wonder that there are people who see it differently. It almost seems naive and blinded in some way (which in no way means I have a problem with people believing something different than I do)."

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It is important to separate belief and religion. Atheism is a belief, it is not a religion.

But science is often the religion of Atheists. ;) While I joke, there is actually a bit of truth. The scientific elite will do peer reviews and try to come up with real facts, but there are way too many people (the common folk) who swallow anything that anyone says in the name of Science.

Evert
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November 2000
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I think the common response from a Christian would be:

Exactly (yes, the question was meant to be rhetorical). And the same for any other belief one might have.
What would be more illuminating is asking people who changed what they belief in sometime after their childhood to find out why.
I once had a discussion about that with my supervisor, who came to the conclusion that there was a discrepancy between what belief was telling him and what his own ratio and background as a scientist was telling him. It is not so clear how to decide what to belief.

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But science is often the religion of Atheists. ;)

Oh, come on. I noticed the smiley, but people who do not know the destinction between science and religion are seriously annoying.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Meh; I was an atheist for 20 years personally. Born Again Christian ftw.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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What would be more illuminating is asking people who changed what they belief in sometime after their childhood to find out why.

Agreed, but I think it usually comes down to a few boring things:

  • I converted away from my religion to atheism because I felt that the religious people were hypocritical and offered me nothing of real value.

  • I experienced some dramatic event that proved to me there was really a god / something out there.

And then occasionally you have the scholarly type that ends up deciding the other side makes more sense. And sometimes it's just out of peer pressure due to a relationship (ie: marriage).

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people who do not know the destinction between science and religion are seriously annoying.

They are annoying in both directions. (Both atheists and religious folks can get confused.)

GullRaDriel
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September 2003
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It funny to see how a little Topic can grow and reach this number of pages/opinions

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Mark Oates
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I experienced some dramatic event that proved to me there was really a god / something out there.

I've had a few of these but it hasn't chainged my view. I realize that I was 'spiritually excited', 'impulsive', and 'delusional' more than that 'logical' or 'realistic'.

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Sirocco
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April 2000
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What would be more illuminating is asking people who changed what they belief in sometime after their childhood to find out why

I was agnostic for ~25 years before moving over to buddhism, the tenets of which are relatively close to my own personal guidelines. It was a much more comfortable fit, and let's face it... agnostics receive everyone's wrath because they won't commit (even athiests give 'em a hard time on occasion).

Christianity always felt "forced", and I never felt at ease with it. However, when people speak of Yahweh, or Allah, or even the Buddha, it seems likely we're all referring to the same thing, and as such I don't feel any disdain or contempt for other religions.

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Onewing
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It funny to see how a little Topic can grow and reach this number of pages/opinions

I don't find it surprising that this topic is so heavily debated. Just look at the different stats from the questionaire, however unreliable it may be.

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To turn the question around, what made you pick Chrsitianity? How did you come to think like that?

Even if you meant it to be rhetorical, I find it's good to confirm one's own belief from time to time.

I'll be honest, I fell into the category of "raised by parents as Christian and now have that mindset." Thus, I'm more likely to believe a coincedence is not a coincedence at all. In topics like these with that kind of background, it's hard to prove I can think for myself at all.

I think testimony is somewhat worthless to everyone except for the testimonee (should be a word). And thing with Christianity is you kind of have to choose blind faith. I am thoroughly convinced that God exists via my own testimony/experiences, whether everything in the Bible/Church is correct or not. God is my real imaginary friend and the more we bond, the more I love Him. I also believe that our existence is brilliant, we are here to choose God or not to choose God. Kind of like the perfect AI. If we all chose God, then it wouldn't really be a choice at all. There's still a lot more to life I have to figure out, but I've got a lifetime to do it and we'll see what God judges at the end.

And thus, what made me pick Christianity is going to appear as ignorance to others. Of course, that fits perfectly in my understanding of our existence.

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miran
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June 2002

Steven Silvey said:

God is my real imaginary friend and the more we bond, the more I love Him.

:-/::):o:):D;D;D;D

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Onewing
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Who is this "Steven Silvey" fellow you speak of? ;)

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miran
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June 2002

Wow, something miraculous just happened! Just as I was reading this thread, the random song picker in my media player picked this song. :o Is that a coincidence? I don't think so. I am now a beleiver!

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Ron Novy
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Your beliefs most closely resemble those of Satanism! Before you scream, do a bit of research on it. To be a Satanist, you don't actually have to believe in Satan. Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. Do some research if you immediately think of the satanic cult stereotype. Your beliefs may also resemble those of earth-based religions such as paganism.

Satanism 79%
agnosticism 63%
Islam 63%
Paganism 58%
atheism 50%
Buddhism 46%
Judaism 33%
Christianity 29%
Hinduism 8%

hmm... 1010011010 must have something to do with it. And BTW having an imaginary friend is a sign of bad mental health.
It's not that supprising that so many people wish to voice there opinion on religion as it is one of the biggest money making ideas in the world. Not only because people will donate to its cause but because a war which is based on religious differences can make the manufacturers of weapons LOTS of money. I'm not saying that religion is a bad thing though, just that religious extremists of all kinds exist and are easily taken advantage of. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it would be wise to respect a difference in opinion rather than lose friends over it.

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Marcello
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January 2002
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I follow what I sometimes jocularly refer to as celloism, though may be more accurately referred to as the way. It's in one sense more of a philosophy than a religion (since religion tends to be associated with some institutionalized system), but I see it as more of a meta-religion. All atheisms and theisms derive from it.

Marcello

miran
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June 2002

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Who is this "Steven Silvey" fellow you speak of?

The guy whose profile you stole. You may have changed the name, but you forgot about the avatar and sig. You won't fool me this easily.

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Onewing
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Wow, something miraculous just happened! Just as I was reading this thread, the random song picker in my media player picked this song [lyrics.duble.com]. Is that a coincidence? I don't think so. I am now a beleiver!

You proved me wrong! Wait, or did you?

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The guy whose profile you stole. You may have changed the name, but you forgot about the avatar and sig. You won't fool me this easily.

I've been spotted! Run away!

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Johan Halmén
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September 2001

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Your views are most similar to those of Satanism. Do more research on Satanism and possibly consider being burn marked with a pentagram and accepting Satan, if you aren't already a satanist.

Satanism 83%
atheism 71%
agnosticism 71%
Buddhism 67%
Potrzebism 54%
Cubism 42%
Paganinism 33%
Christianity 21%
Hinduism 13%

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Torbjörn Josefsson
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September 2000
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Hey!

Can't we achieve a sense of agreement by picking on some group everybody here considers loopy?

My suggestion is new-agers.. or whatever they're called. (cherrypicking all religions/ superstitions)
Alternative suggestions: Furries..? :)

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Mark Oates
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March 2001
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Fuck Religion

If you like that one you should check out this track:
Kevin Cassell - Channel Rapture
It's from a CD I just finished producing. ;)

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Adol
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May 2002
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It funny to see how a little Topic can grow and reach this number of pages/opinions

Is it just me or does it seem like Allegro.cc has really matured as a whole on this subject? I only counted one, (read it: 1) bash in this thread (I was skimming though). Shame on you BAF ;) ;D ... and while on the subject of violence and Islam, that deserves a seperate dedicated thread.

I browsed a few other quizes on the website and most of the results seemed like useless garbage. I think this religious one is great work for someone who's not a perfessional theologist statistition.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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I only counted one, (read it: 1) bash in this thread

I like bashing.

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I, so-and-so, am a Christian, and I don't care who knows it.

Translation: I AM a Christian, and EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW IT!

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Meh; I was an atheist for 20 years personally. Born Again Christian ftw.

Every "born again" I've ever met happen to be the most annoying of the bunch, somehow, being born again, makes you believe harder, and makes your belief's more correct than anyone elses.

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I'll be honest, I fell into the category of "raised by parents as Christian and now have that mindset."

Translation: I've been brainwashed!

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Translation: I've been brainwashed!

Thats how education works ;)

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FrankyR
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April 2000
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Is it just me or does it seem like Allegro.cc has really matured as a whole on this subject?

Agreed, this may be one of the most mature discussions I've ever seen on the internet.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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Agreed, this may be one of the most mature discussions I've ever seen on the internet.

Just cause a person just turned 24 doesn't mean she/he's mature ;D

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