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gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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Hi, I have started this new project - a Bomberman Clone. I wont have much troubles with the code, but I am worried about the graphics. Especially about the B-Man himself. I would like to have a 3D Model with walking and dieing animation. Save this animation to 2D sprites and the use it in my game. I have tried this in Blender, but I am still not so good at it and things I make look awful. So I want to ask, if someone wants to join me in my Bomberman project and make me some nice 3D Bomberman. __________________________________________________________ |
Marcello
Member #1,860
January 2002
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Just use the 'awful' one you made temporarily, write the game, then see if anyone wants to redo it once the game is playable and fun. Marcello |
Carrus85
Member #2,633
August 2002
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Just for our information, what diamentions should the sprite be? And, if possible, maybe attach a copy of the sprites and their frames (for refrence). Someone might be willing to help a little bit more if they could see what they are dealing with...
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gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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I don't know the dimension jet... But that should not be a problem, because what i need is the 3D model with bones for animation. I'm not sure if I should not use a 3D model in game or I should use sprites, but I think that sprites would be better. One reason is that I can make funnier animations like in Atomic Bomberman. I think 3D models are good for walking animations, but not for animations where parts of the model are changing, for instance loose a leg or explode or burning - if you know what I mean.... I think the model should look a bit like the classic bomberman, perhaps a bigger had. Perhaps floating fists and foot, like Rayman. Important is that he looks funny. hmm.. Cellshading... Is there nobody who has free time and want's to join a project, that will bring one of the most funny multiplayer games to life? Info:
What's missing:
PS: I want to run the game in 1024x768 32bpp __________________________________________________________ |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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Quote: But that should not be a problem, because what i need is the 3D model with bones for animation.
I can't give you a full rigged 3d model with bones for animation, sorry, but isn't that easy. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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Thx Paul, that sounds nice for the start. __________________________________________________________ |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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I rendered 3 walking animations(front, back, and left). *frames: Here I am talking about the animations frames I rendered for you. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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75/5=15 --- |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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Yes, those works too, I suggested 60hz because is more popular, for example my fx5700 does not support 90hz. Here gif version: FRONT BACK LEFT ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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Thank you Paul! I'm now adding animation to my engine. I am using logic refresh rates. I will post a little demo of the walking dummy model when I am done... __________________________________________________________ |
gillius
Member #119
April 2000
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Hmm this sounds a lot like two of my projects Super IsoBomb and Mega Monkey Mayhem. M3 used actual 3D models with cel-shading. It was developed with Direct3D8. IsoBomb was also had a Direct3D8 graphics engine but was rendered entirely in "2D" with sprites. Gillius |
Krzysztof Kluczek
Member #4,191
January 2004
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Quote: Yes, those works too, I suggested 60hz because is more popular, for example my fx5700 does not support 90hz. I think GF5700 should be perfectly capable of supporting high refresh rates, while your monitor may not be. It also depends on resolution you use (eg. my monitor can support 100Hz at 1024x768, while at 1600x1200 65Hz is the maximum). ________ |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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Quote: I will post a little demo of the walking dummy model when I am done... Good, I want to play it!, but don't make me wait Quote: I think GF5700 should be perfectly capable of supporting high refresh rates, while your monitor may not be.
You were right, it seems that my fx5700 supports up to 240hz, but my monitor does not. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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first demo.... (abel to walk down) I had to convert the png to bmp, because my engine hasn't png support yet. Anyone knows a good png lib that I can use with OpenGl easyly? __________________________________________________________ |
Fladimir da Gorf
Member #1,565
October 2001
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OpenLayer? (Not actually a PNG library but loads PNGs and renders them to screen with transformations and color effects. You can bind the PNGs as OpenGL textures, OpenLayer can be used alongside of your own OpenGL code) OpenLayer has reached a random SVN version number ;) | Online manual | Installation video!| MSVC projects now possible with cmake | Now alvailable as a Dev-C++ Devpack! (Thanks to Kotori) |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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No, I want to do it with OpenGL and an image librrary. I don't want to include that much only for png loading... __________________________________________________________ |
Fladimir da Gorf
Member #1,565
October 2001
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Then you could use BMGLib instead (found that in half a minute by googling for OpenGL and PNG loading) OpenLayer has reached a random SVN version number ;) | Online manual | Installation video!| MSVC projects now possible with cmake | Now alvailable as a Dev-C++ Devpack! (Thanks to Kotori) |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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Now I am able to load PNG files... finally new demo (use up and down key to move) [EDIT] @Paul whoknows: Can you make me 4 more animations - I want 8 directions: If not - could you post the 3d-model? __________________________________________________________ |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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Quote: new demo (use up and down key to move) Did you write a new demo? where I can get it? post the link please. Quote: Paul whoknows: Can you make me 4 more animations - I want 8 directions:
Bomberman doesn't need 8 directions, what are you trying to do? Quote: If not - could you post the 3d-model? You must tell my in which file format, there are many of them!8-) ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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http://thegering.gmxhome.de/files/demo2.zip I need it in a format that Blender can read... (.blend) [EDIT] http://thegering.gmxhome.de/files/demo3.zip __________________________________________________________ |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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I thought you were using allegro, in allegro you can use horizontal and vertical sprite flip routines. EDIT: RIGHT DOWN RIGHT UP EDIT: demo3 works better!, now with a 8 directions dummy you can do something more than just a 4-directions bomberman clone. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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I'm not using allegro, I am using 2d OpenGL engine like OpenLayer. Could you post the .png files, because .gif hasn't smooth alpha. I can handle the .3ds format. Quote:
demo3 works better!, now with a 8 directions dummy you can do something more than just a 4-directions bomberman clone.
Yes, somthing better than a 4 direction Bomberman is planned __________________________________________________________ |
Fladimir da Gorf
Member #1,565
October 2001
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Quote: I'm not using allegro, I am using 2d OpenGL engine like OpenLayer. Well, then flipping the sprites should be a trivial task... OpenLayer has reached a random SVN version number ;) | Online manual | Installation video!| MSVC projects now possible with cmake | Now alvailable as a Dev-C++ Devpack! (Thanks to Kotori) |
gering
Member #4,101
December 2003
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Quote: Well, then flipping the sprites should be a trivial task... That's true, but I want later more than one model. Each should be stored the same way and perhaps not all will be flipable, because of asymmetric reasons. __________________________________________________________ |
Zaphos
Member #1,468
August 2001
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Quote: Each should be stored the same way and perhaps not all will be flipable Just store an "is flippable" boolean along with the pictures, and check that.
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