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WHAT THE FU..? Strange Chess Rules?!?
Kirr
Member #5,060
September 2004
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Dennis, the position you show is totally lost for white (red), even without en passant. I wonder why pawns and bishops look so similar in your diagram, it must be quite hard to play or analyze with program like that. ???

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Ugh, I do hate coordenates. Why people can't use ye olde P5A (that may be P5B, since alfil in spanish is bishop in english)?

There are two Bishop squares, how you disambiguate between f5 and c5? I think it's lucky that most people don't use descriptive notation anymore, or may be I'm also too young to like it. All chess publications in my country (Russia) are done in algebraic notation for the last 100 years at least. So I'm in "naval battle" camp. ;D

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Main thing I hate about the navy battle coordenates is that you cannot see at a first glimpse if you took a piece or not. With the old notation, you can easily see what is happening with the x, +, ++, !, !!, ?, ??, 0-0, 0-0-0, ap and all those shortcuts. Do this system also use them?

Sure! :)
Also see any of about first hundred of search results.

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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Kirr said:

Dennis, the position you show is totally lost for white (red), even without en passant.

Yep, now i know. (Evert already showed me.;))
(Inside the game, bishop and pawn are quite well distinguishable, it may be because of the poorly resized blurry screenshots.)

Attention: To make sure it is not overlooked after the page split: See the [append] to my previous post...;)

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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There are two Bishop squares, how you disambiguate between f5 and c5?

If needed to, add K for the king side or Q for the queen side.

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Kirr
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September 2004
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I think using R for Rook (tower) and N for Knight (horse) is much more popular in English language.

Anyway, I also made one (asterisk means side to move):

    r n b q k b n r
    p p p p p p p p
    . . . . . . . .
    . . . . . . . .
    . . . . . . . .
    . . . . . . . .
    P P P P P P P P
 *  R N B Q K B N R

:D

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Krzysztof Kluczek
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January 2004
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the AI Queen would go berserk and disappear taking a few pieces with her, nice self destructing queen... I'm pretty sure it wasn't a legal move ;D

Spawn Broodling? ;)

Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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r n b q k b n r  *
p p p p p p p p
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . P . . .
P P P P . P P P
R N B Q K B N R

Well ok, since nobody seems to want to start playing, i'll jump right in, but to make it more fun(and take out the long delays), everybody here should always be allowed to make a move:D

Radagar
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September 2002
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Spellcaster said:

Well, it's obvious what happend here.
The computer's pawn threatend the area you were passing through. He must have scored a critical hit with his attack of opportunity - or, if the compuetr's pawn is an assasin and had enough time to study you, it might simply have been his deadly strike.

You can avoid this by letting your cleric (or druid) buff you before combat. He should also have a cure spell ready in case the HP of one of your party members are dropping below 0.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Derezo
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April 2001
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r . b q k b n r 
p p p p p p p p
. . n . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . P . . .
P P P P . P P P
R N B Q K B N R *

..I suck at chess.
[edit: Hey wait.. aren't black's k and q mixed up?]

"He who controls the stuffing controls the Universe"

Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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r . b q k b n r *
p p p p p p p p
. . n . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. P . . P . . .
P . P P . P P P
R N B Q K B N R

You should have placed the asterisk to the side whose turn it is after you moved.;)

Derezo said:

I suck at chess.

Everybody says that. Purely psychological warfare i think.:P

(Black's k and q are correctly placed. It's always "white queen->white field, black queen->black field" and the field in the lower right is white.)

Evert
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November 2000
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(I could delay the end of the game a little if i wanted: h5-f3;D)
But i won't. I surrender. You win!:)

hehe :)
Eh... you did see that rook on g4, right?

Didn't Mike Jensen set up a site where you could play chess against eachother?

Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Evert said:

Eh... you did see that rook on g4, right?
Didn't Mike Jensen set up a site where you could play chess against eachother?

No, i accidantially set up my real chess board wrong and put it on g5 but that's of course not to be taken as an excuse that i have lost but merely a poor explaination on why i was able to move h5-f3...:P

FMC
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March 2004
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r . b q k b n r *
p p p p . p p p
. . n . . . . .
. . . . P . . .
. . . . . . . .
. P . . P . . .
P . P P . P P P
R N B Q K B N R

It's difficult to see diagonals without colours :P

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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain

Karadoc ~~
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September 2002
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I guess somebody complained that was not fair, because that would allow you to avoid getting slayed just like you were trying to do right here. So that is why the en passant rule was introduced.

I've been told that it was introduced to prevent the board from becoming blocked up in the end game, eg (pawns only {x, y}, so that we can see the difference):

. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. x . . . . x .
. y . x . . y .
. . x y . x . .
. . y . . y . .
. . . . . . . .

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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Mithrandir:
Pay more attention: This game is case SeNsItIvE;)
And you also put the '*'(==asterisk) on the wrong side.;)

r . b q k b n r *
p p p p . p p p
. . n . . . . .
. . . . p . . .
. . . . . . . .
. P . . P . . .
P B P P . P P P
R N . Q K B N R

FMC
Member #4,431
March 2004
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Dennis said:

Mithrandir:
Pay more attention: This game is case SeNsItIvE;)
And you also put the '*'(==asterisk) on the wrong side

Ahh sorry :)
But what does the asterisk mean? I thought it was a bug or a typo :P

[FMC Studios] - [Caries Field] - [Ctris] - [Pman] - [Chess for allegroites]
Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will, like them, only entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them. -Anacharsis
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain

Dennis
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July 2003
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Mithrandir just said:

But what does the asterisk mean? I thought it was a bug or a typo

way above, Kirr said:

(asterisk means side to move)

Kirr
Member #5,060
September 2004
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r . b q k b . r 
p p p p . p p p
. . n . . n . .
. . . . p . . .
. . . . . . . .
. P . . P . . .
P B P P . P P P
R N . Q K B N R *

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- Lunabean's Thief Deadly Shadows Walkthrough, day eight

Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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r . b q k b . r *
p p p p . p p p
. . n . . n . .
. . . . p . . .
. . . . . . . .
. P . B P . . .
P B P P . P P P
R N . Q K . N R 

Kirr
Member #5,060
September 2004
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r . b q k b . r 
. p p p . p p p
p . n . . n . .
. . . . p . . .
. . . . . . . .
. P . B P . . .
P B P P . P P P
R N . Q K . N R *

OK, I'll stick on the dark side... :)
Everyone! this is team game, so join either white or black and make moves. :)

There is also FEN notation for cases when you need more compact representation. Current position would look like this in it:
r1bqkb1r/1ppp1ppp/p1n2n2/4p3/8/1P1BP3/PBPP1PPP/RN1QK1NR w KQkq - 0 5
This notation is the reason why I used capital letters for white.

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Didn't Mike Jensen set up a site where you could play chess against eachother?

It is mostly abandoned now, even by him. It's nice site, but it lacks some basic features, like possibility to draw offer or to resign. As a result games must last until the checkmate, which is quite painful to see (or participate).

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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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r . b q k b . r *
. p p p . p p p
p . n . . n . .
. . . . p . . .
. . . . . . . P
. P . B P . . .
P B P P . P P .
R N . Q K . N R 

Kirr
Member #5,060
September 2004
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r . b q k b . r 
. p p . . p p p
p . n . . n . .
. . . p p . . .
. . . . . . . P
. P . B P . . .
P B P P . P P .
R N . Q K . N R *

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- Lunabean's Thief Deadly Shadows Walkthrough, day eight

Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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r . b q k b . r *
. p p . . p p p
p . n . . n . .
. . . p p . . .
. . . . . . . P
. P . B P Q . .
P B P P . P P .
R N . . K . N R 

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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Have you ever tried to blind (sp?) or blitz (sp?)? I can blitz somewhat, but I get lost after the opening when blind :(

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光子「あたしただ…奪う側に回ろうと思っただけよ」
Mitsuko's last words, Battle Royale

Kirr
Member #5,060
September 2004
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Hmm...

r . . q k b . r 
. p p . . p p p
p . n . . n . .
. . . p p . . .
. . . . . . b P
. P . B P Q . .
P B P P . P P .
R N . . K . N R *

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- Lunabean's Thief Deadly Shadows Walkthrough, day eight

Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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ReyBrujo said:

Have you ever tried to blind (sp?) or blitz (sp?)?

I'm afraid, i don't understand the question.

r . . q k b . r *
. p p . . p p p
p . n . . n . .
. . . p p . . .
. . . . . . b P
. P . B P . Q .
P B P P . P P .
R N . . K . N R 



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