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Retrix : the Phoenix (RetroHack related post) |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Although Retrix corporation 1.0 unfortunately failed to bring their product to market, due to public request a hostile takeover has resorted in the formation of Retrix corporation 2.0 and the design of a brand new machine - the Retrix 2.0! This machine is so well spec'd, it will almost certainly last well into the 1990s. A brief hardware reference : http://www.btinternet.com/~t.harte/retrix.htm ... one dose of reality later ... Seriously, if anybody still wants to do the RetroHack, the library in that doc is finished but for sound output, and I can knock that up in a few hours. If people are still up for it, then how about we start the competition on the 24th, as previously, and since interest is limited, I'll try and judge the entries myself. So, umm, the full rules would be : - competition starts at 00:00 GMT, on the 24th Also, if the hardware reference doesn't makes sense, please say. I've tried to keep it simple but incorporate many clever and interesting ways of using the hardware. Interest, anyone? [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Grudge
Member #958
February 2001
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hmm, let me just check out the specs, but I'm def. interested !! -- |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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oh, extra brownie points for anyone who can name and shame my blatant reference points for the hardware design! [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000
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First of all, let me link to the other thread. There's one quote I'd like to emphasise: "Development on the library will continue, however, and the competition is still going to happen eventually." Now I'm not gonna stand in Thomas's way if he wants to run this competition. However, permit me to quote from IRC EFnet #allegro, where TDRH is Thomas Harte and entheh is me: --> TDRH ([IP woz ere]) has joined #allegro prescient. Having knowledge of coming events; foreseeing; conscious beforehand. - dictionary.com As you can see, Thomas has stolen our idea and now he's rubbing it in. I said I'm not going to stand in the way; however, I must insist that you use a different name. Retrix and RetroHack refer to our competition. -- |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Quote: As you can see, Thomas has stolen our idea and now he's rubbing it in. I do have to quote myself, making a particular word bold for clarity : Quote: Although Retrix corporation 1.0 unfortunately failed to bring their product to market, due to public request a hostile takeover If I were petty I would point out that your idea seems to have been to announce then not run a competition, whereas mine is to run a competition announced by someone else, which are entirely different ideas. Seriously though, I really didn't think anyone would care. And for reference purposes, that quote is about three months old! Also, a better edit of my original statement : I said it was prescient, didn't I? is : I said Allegro giving that exact same quote earlier today was prescient, didn't I? Now, one quote I wish to emphasise from the other thread : "Both entheh and I have other things to do this summer and we don't really want to spend it all on this competition" To me, this implies no competition this summer. Therefore my competition is not doing anything other than establishing a precedent for yours and helping promote the idea, which I acknowledged from the start of this thread was not mine. It is therefore beneficial to you and your competition, and there is no reason for it to cause conflict. [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000
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I edited my last post. Please re-read it. The quote is not three months old. The Retrix (the original one) has only been under development for a week or two, and the idea is no older. With regard to the (subsequently added) end of your post, I shall reiterate: I'm not standing in your way, but I must insist that you change the name. Now I'm going to spend my time more usefully and congratulate Rash on a brilliant parody in the other thread -- |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Names are cheap. I hope you'll accept its too late to change the discussion thread name, but I have the feeling that won't bother you! But I must take issue with "The quote is not three months old", since I happen to know it to be substantially older than two weeks based on when I am near a computer that IRCs and when I am not, and also with "the idea is no older", both I and the allegro.cc search engine disagree with that, citing e.g. http://www.allegro.cc/forums/view_thread.php?_id=146574. A thread which also proves that me underestimating how important some people think some things are and producing offense isn't new either! A thread that would demonstrate the idea was even older is probably the 'New competition suggestion' one that comes up second if you search for 'retro competition'. Although, as is not unexpected for the allegro.cc search engine, the produced link doesn't work. So, anyway, I'm off to come up with new names (I don't see why I should abandon RetroHack, although NostalgiaHack is appealing - but I can understand that Retrix is not so obvious a name). If anybody wants to beat me to it, the thread is right here! [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Rash
Member #2,374
May 2002
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How about Back2Hack? |
Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000
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I've been talking to Thomas on IRC for a while now. I've come to agree with him about the competitions being run at different times and therefore not being rivals in reality. That's why I'm not standing in the way - as I already said. What gets me is the way he introduced it. First he implied in his post on the forums that ours was cancelled, not postponed. Secondly he labelled his as a newer version of ours, clearly implying that his is superior, which it most likely isn't considering he wrote it in a day (I think). You have all the information in front of you; first he made the post, then he logged on to IRC and you can see what he said in my first reply. If I saw that a competition were postponed and wanted to run a similar competition in the meantime, I would first ask the people involved if they minded. They would probably be a lot more amenable as a result, and I might even get to use the same name or even finish off the code already started. Instead, Thomas left me feeling pretty sore (Goodbytes too most likely when he sees this). It's not impossible to be considerate towards people. I manage it pretty nicely though I say it myself Now that that's said, I'm willing to consider the matter closed. Proceed with the competition by all means. Ours may be ready soon after the release of Allegro 5. -- |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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A quote from me first, to save retyping it and not to imply that Ben Davis was not reading my post : Quote: me underestimating how important some people think some things are and producing offense isn't new When I look at life I see that a lot of the time people do things like die and get serious disease and so on, I see the front page of the newspaper says 'Blair plans 'strikes tsar' as union crisis grows' and I fail to comprehend how important a particular programming competition on a particular well known theme will be taken. Which is probably a sign of emotional detachment, but I feel this is not the forum in which to discuss that. But, to reply to a few points : Well, thats my closing shot, did you enjoy it? Well? Back to the infinitely more important issue of what to call the 'machine' and competition! I like Back2Hack (although anyone who now sings 'back to hack. back to reality' should notice the absurdity of exactly what they've just said), what about something like the BackMobile for the machine? [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Ok, let spend more time writing the lib and less time fussing (I hope in a tongue-in-cheek way) over it. |
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