Anyone got any experiences? When I mix the two I seem to going down the same path every time. Anything im coding is reworked. I change all the code to be recursive and self initializing. like AI. Its almost spooky. I start to code AI routine out of no where the same thing happen every time then when I sober up I forget what I was programing until I get more THC.

Its like the THC wanted me to code something that's hidden in my mind. what I have sofar is like a new type of deep learning neutral network.

I wonder if this has happen to anyone else?

I don't much feel like coding when I'm stoned. Classifications for cannabis are still somewhat unreliable due to its history with prohibition, but I usually lean more towards the "Indica" label because I generally consume cannabis in the evening before bed (and I don't believe I am always capable of being "competent"/reliable stoned). For those that don't partake or haven't looked into it, Indica is believed to make you relaxed or tired, and Sativa is believed to make you energetic and creative.

I have had limited experiences with Sativa's, but generally I just find them more potent and less forgiving. It's easier to get "too" stoned on cannabis labelled Sativa in my experience. To reiterate, I generally am not motivated to code stoned, and I have very limited experience with it.

I vaguely recall (cannabis use also cripples short term memory, particularly while stoned) that I attempted it once, and I think I found it very difficult (i.e., things that I would normally do sober without any trouble became very difficult to track/figure out).

One anecdote that I can provide is that several of my [ex-]colleagues were apparently stoned during work, and if that is any indication of its effects on the quality of output then it should be avoided at all costs.

Finally, if this code is truly so amazing then I suggest you post a snippet of it for us to analyze. When I'm stoned I often think I'm having brilliant ideas, but typically when I share them with sober people they roll their eyes. There's no doubt that cannabis has inspired a lot of good ideas, but I think what gets a lot less attention is how many bad ideas it generates too.

My experience has been that cannabis really just intensifies the creative center of your brain. You don't necessarily have better ideas, but you have a higher frequency of ideas. Just like normal some of those ideas are good, and some of those ideas are bad. If you can manage to identify the good ideas then you can benefit from them. The downside is that you are generating so many ideas, and your short term memory capacity is compromised, so it can be very difficult to remember your ideas. I'm often in the middle of telling somebody my "genius" idea when it just *blanks* on me and I can't remember for the life of me what I was even talking about.

For this reason, if you are attempting to generate good ideas with cannabis I recommend a convenient, simple, and fast tool to help you record as much detail about the idea as quickly as possible because odds are you will lose it shortly. Maybe, just maybe, if you recall the log(s) you'll discover some worthwhile ideas that might not have occurred to you sober.

My ideas seem to only last a matter of seconds. Maybe 7 or 10 seconds before I lose them. Sometimes I might last 30 seconds or a minute, but it's rare for me to be able to hold onto an idea longer than that without at least recording it somewhere (other than my own short term memory) to recall.

tl;dr Cannabis is a lot of fun, and has some beneficial medicinal uses too, but it's probably not going to make you awesome at anything that you aren't already awesome at (but you might get lucky on occasion).

Append:

I wish I was stoned right now, but I have a bad cold coupled with a bad sore throat, and I'm worried vaping is going to exacerbate it (and/or caused it). I am all out of capsules. I was supposed to have a fresh order delivered today, but the postal worker apparently didn't do his job.

Interesting.. i could never code using Indica because it is meant to shutdown your body so it can self heal. Sativa dominate hybrid is what i am using.

I don't want to post the code because i don't want it to show up on google. when i look over it while sober it seems to be some kinds of AI neural brain attempt. it has a lot of classes and the classes seem to make its own data structure using link list style object pointers. the class names are all medical brain terms and the objects seem to self create a link list and then the processing takes place as the 2d/ 3d link list is being self generated based on the input sample data and when it has been generated.

the data structure is 2d but I see where it is to be made to expand into a 3rd
right now its only about 700 lines of code and its all in one cpp main file.
hear are the class names

Neuron
NeuronSynapticConnection
NeuralNetwork
ConnectionMemory

what is interesting is the crazy drive that appear while high that just starts coding "by itself" working on different areas then linking the areas as if the whole project is already built and i am just coding it into this reality.

Wow. This gets my vote for dumbest thread ever

We're literally watching the human species de-evolve...

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Now if instead you had said, "I can program the DNA of THC to kill cancer", now that would be cool.

THC++19

please explain

Perplexed by the claim that THC would even contain DNA, I attempted to Google it, and that lead me to this gem:

https://thehustle.co/dna-test-weed

There are companies now that claim they can analyze your DNA and pair you with the right strains of cannabis. I don't trust any companies that process DNA because I don't think any of them treat it with the privacy and security protections that it deserves (i.e., they should destroy all traces of it after the tests, and encrypt each person's data separately so that only the customer can access their data). Anyway, this is neat, but it is also too easy to just bullshit and get away with it... Maybe in time...

I can see your point Edgar but I figured I was just being too old to be hip. When ever I hear people talk about curing the world’s ills while in a stoned funk I can’t help of thinking of Jesse and Chester from Dude where’s my car. One of my favs btw. It’s like that charismatic suave and smooth dancing drunk.

Doobie is not magic. It's great to help you relax, but it's also great to smoke yourself into a stupor with. Generally I end up doing the latter.

I code stoned all the time, and it doesn't help my coding in the least bit, except for helping with the restlessness my other medications give me. I find myself in a much better condition to code when I am not stoned.

And to correct myself, no, THC doesn't have DNA, it's just a chemical. I meant cannabis, of whatever strain you enjoy. If you could make cancer killing recombinant genes to alter your doobie with, we could just smoke cancer away.

Piccolo, I thought you were enlightened. It's hard to tell whether that's true when you post stuff like this....

Edgar, I am. your just are missing a lot of information and context.
The cannabis you and bamccaig are smoking is indica dominate that type is meant to shutdown your body for self repair this is similar to a process that happens when you sleep. the sativa dominate cannabis (ganja) i smoke does the opposite it gives you energy and stimulates your brain.

Edit good thing i did not tell you that i invented unlimited energy source.

bamccaig i would not rust that dna test ether because humans dont know enough yet

Except you just did, so now you're obligated to share it with the world. :/

The unlimited power source is not a new announcement. I think that goes back at least 5 years. Alas, it was probably lost when his boat sunk.

I have consumed Sativa (or at least, strains that their growers believe to be predominantly Sativa^[1]) enough times to say that it isn't guaranteed to energize you, and certainly doesn't just "stimulate your brain". In my experience both variants "stimulate" your brain, but like I said it tends to just put your creative center into hyper-drive. The ideas that it creates aren't always good by any means. Sometimes they are pretty good I think, but I haven't come up with anything to make me rich yet (or if I have I forgot about it before I could record it...).

My experience has been that Sativa is just more potent, as I said before. I would describe it as the difference between beer or mixed drinks versus hard liquor. Sativa is the hard liquor of cannabis in my experience. I think that's why most newbies don't enjoy it. It's too much. You need experience to try a Sativa. I need to experiment more with it, but it has never made me "energetic". Though it can certainly be hard to even remember the effects because of the short term memory impairment,... In my experience when I try a high potency Sativa I am guaranteed to feel too stoned. A balanced, mid- or low-range Sativa seems to get me stoned like a strong Indica does. I still generally just feel like sitting at my computer, listening to music, thinking crazy shit.

Edgar, if your experiences usually get you feeling "too" stoned it could be that your sources are providing you with Sativas, and Indicas may be more compatible. Hard to say. I usually just end up feeling relaxed and zoned out, with ideas racing through my head too fast to tell anyone what they are.

On the subject of cannabis I really want to grow some. My wife and I just bought a house so I have some extra space. The problem is I think in my climate (particularly in winter, which we're quickly approaching) you need to buy expensive lamps and basically create an artificial environment to grow in... I've tried to price out "simple" kits for this, but it seems to be a CAD$700 investment minimum. On top of that, the legal seeds are CAD$65 each. That means you need a pretty successful yield to make it worth your while, and I'm not a green thumb by any means. My concern is that my first attempts are going to be failures, and I'll have wasted all of that time and money...

No Edgar, i will share with everyone once I have a pattern filed.

bamccaig i google Alas all i got was something about a missel. my invention is dead simple as with everything in the world once you understand the basics.

i posted another thread explaining how THC works
when using you have to approach everything scientifically.
if you are unable to cope with the effects you need to lower the dosage. Sativa plants have very thing leafs indica plants have wider leafs. hybread will very the leafs between the the 2 extreams. An idea being good or bad is subjective.
everything you can do with cannabis can be done with out it will just beharder because we have be desensitized from nature. cannabis restores that sensitivity. sensitivity to be able to be able prosive what is around us on a more detailed level.

the the short term memory impairment is because you do not have the will power yet to control information that is being collected. lower the THC% to something your current will can handle

edit when using indica you should feel sluggish heavy in the body like arms legs couch lock.

Sativa should produce a lot of branching thoughts and a light headed feeling as if you hearing to your self talk in your head. parona is when you are not able to control those thoughts and they spirial out of control. the trick is to turn force your self to be able to focus the data you want to collect.if you ver off track you need to bring and hold the focus. the trick is to turn your thoughts into logic

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I still want to have an online group smoking session. I think this could be very amusing.

I don't know about the memory impairment after stoning because I have never experienced it but it maybe because you are getting stoned too frequently.

Adam says that research says : Adam Ruins Everything. (Time stamp : 1:00)

the memory loss is be cause of lake out focus and control of application to short term memory stack. you stack only has so much space if you put to many thing on it the stuff at the top of the stack gets dropped off. you need to mentally control what gets added to the stack

I'm pretty sure memory, among other things are quite impaired after stoning. That is - if you survive it.

I have met stoners that believe they can drive safely stoned, and many that think being stoned at work doesn't impact their quality of work for the worst (but I beg to differ). Some people think that cannabis doesn't even impair them. To those people, I say, good luck with that. I know it impairs me, and that's what I like about it. Many people believe they can also drive drunk, or drive while texting. The world is full of stupid people. I think that's the default even.

RosettaStoned

TOOL

THC++ 20 Standards Committee be like: Duuuuuude, maybe we're all just pointers. And the universe is a huge memory pool of Atom*....

And quarks are really just quantum computing bits of signed long long* Neutrons.

Fuck me...

You been smokin that chronic again....

No, I haven't. I'm sober. It's work hours. I just thought that was a profound way to think of it. In my younger years before I understood how much work software was I used to dream of developing a universe simulation based on real physics down to the atomic or quantum level... Ignoring of course my own ignorance in math and physics that would have made it impossible... I never actually thought through how you would represent matter or energy in code. In reality, I don't think a list of atoms would suffice. You'd probably need a tree to start, but even more than that you'd probably want to track electrons and protons, and beyond that quarks, and beyond that whatever the hell quarks are made of... In reality, we probably don't even have enough computing power to even begin to approach this.

I'm not even consuming flower directly right now because I have a really bad cold (sore throat, head cold, congested, bad cough, etc.). I'm avoiding vaping because I'm worried it'll make my sore throat worse. I have been waiting until late and then taking 10 mg THC capsules. Edibles aren't nearly as fun. The effects are slow to kick in, come on subtly, and last longer. And the effects are just different. It's hard to describe. Vaping is a lot more satisfying, but it'll have to wait...

it impairs you movement because you not using it correctly

however i understand why it is because you live in a cold place sativa will not be plentiful their because its harder to grow need hot climate and takes longer to mature. so it not good for company growers

Listen up kids. I've been smoking at least half as long as I've been alive.

When you first start smoking, you get fucking blazed as shit. If you can't hold your shit together, you shouldn't be driving.

Over time, your tolerance increases. And after a while, it doesn't do much of anything except make you feel normal again, and perhaps a little buzzed.

I use it medicinally, to fight my restlessness, but I also like how it makes me feel.

I don't have a hard time keeping my shit together. Driving drunk is much worse.

Again, pot is not magic. It won't solve any of your problems, only numb the pain.

it seems you guys still don't get it. I will be down for the online sesh bamccaig was suggested. i think i will beable to teach you guys more that way.

This should be fucking rich. Make it a video conference and you've got a deal.

I am down i will even make an exception and i will teach you 2 one of my exercises to help awaken a super power all humans have when walking the path of enlightenment. I was only going to show people my exercise only after I teach it to Africa however after inventing my unlimited energy source Africa will have a sizeable advantage because I will release it in Bermuda, Jamaica and West Africa to start out with.

It depends on the type of work you're doing. I spent most of my hospo career either stoned or half drunk as it kept my social phobia at bay. And as I went from washing dishes to managing a restaurant in less than 18 months in the industry it didn't seem to have any negative impact on my career.

Here is a African that is about to break into the first stages of enlightenment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kqqlbdt6bQ

let me know if you can feel what he is saying.

I find my math/logic is impaired with THC. I don't tend to like code while high.

However, creativity is often increased, and I'll come up with some outstanding ideas while high. Often I'll write them down, and then revisit them when I'm sober. 95% of the time I realize the ideas were not actually good ideas, but the other 5% are absolute gold

you need to link your math/logic to creativity.
the reason you find it hard to link them is because you do not fully understand math/logic. once you look into the simple core of math and logic you will be able to connect them.
until you fully understand a piece of knowledge you will not be able to improve modify or create something similar.

example math. the way the teach math in society you will never own that knowledge until you figure it out yourself. when they teach they give you a formula and say apply the formula when you see some case but they never teach you about the formula so you don't know why it works how it works how was it made why was it made.

I'm not sure what day would work best for a session. We probably should have regular ones so we can meet with as many members as possible... I'm not sure what technology works best for people. Google Hangouts is convenient, but obviously proprietary, and I'm not sure if everybody has it... Also I'm not sure yet how my wife feels about me vaping in our new house. I've been sick since we moved in so I've just been using capsules... Which are barely fun. It hasn't come up yet whether or not I can vape in the house. Though in my experience the smell is minor, and it quickly dissipates... So we'll see. Worst case I guess I can vape off camera, but it'll be more fun if I don't have to.

Suggestions for dates/times and technologies welcome.

i thought Google Hangouts was discontinued I work for my self at night time so any day is good for me. 10 pm to 4:30 am can/Atlantic time is when i do my developing so that is the best time for me. it is 2:51pm right now

Sorry boys. You know when I smoke, you know I like to smoke alone.

Pfffft, you don't have to smoke/get high to participate. It's just more fun if you do.

I have overcome the vaping in the house barrier that I had. I wasn't sure how my wife was going to handle it so tonight I eased her into it with Internet research! And she seems to have fully allowed it. I vaped for the first time tonight. And it's just kicking in right this second.

When balls were made of steel, and brains were just special effects that got spilled when you failed.

I remember when I first saw that video and I told my friends, "You know that moment when you realize you will never--in your entire life--be as badass as these guys right here."

I've created a google doc.

Anyone with the link can comment.

If you want editor rights, PM me your email for your google account.

The purpose is to write down your musings. Smoke a fatty and then put your thoughts to paper. Don't waste precious brain cycles only to lose your work!

We can easily have a group discussion this way.

So you made an A.CC that doesn't lag for 60 seconds every time you post?

No silly, that's what IRC is for

This document is a clever way to steal everyone's brilliant weed ideas, except everybody gets them! Anyway, I haven't vaped yet tonight. It has been a stressful night and I'm still recovering from a bad cold. I'm about to fire up my vape though I think.

I don't know what an appropriate time is to actually "meet". We should probably just set up a date/time in the future and everybody that can plan to meet. I'm still waiting for technology suggestions though. Something like Google Hangouts works fine for me because weed is 100% legal for me, but for anyone that lives in a country where it's still prohibited that probably isn't a risk worth taking. Anybody have a better suggestion? I'd rather a free/libre solution anyway where we control all of the data.

Append:

Somebody may have gotten stoned last night and attempted to write in that document.

I replied to your musings. Katko, turtles love you too.

Somebody added secret diagrams...

i have decided to do it. after i get my energy source out in the world i will implement the super AI that i realized after my awakening. i change my mind because i need to think link God the father. if god had my mind set he would not have created us for the same reason of us taking control. so i will be the one to do it so that i guild how it develops just like how God guided us so that only in his path can we reach true greatness as gods ourself.

That's some strong kush, piccolo. Go easy on it.

Last night I had some Pink Kush. About 19% THC, and <1% CBD. I had done it once before, but it was a different grower, and I was using a conductive vape instead of a convective vape. Anyway, I definitely got stoned af. At one point I was definitely thinking I was "too" stoned, but it wasn't unbearable.

What actually happened is that I was playing Texas Hold'em poker in Red Dead Redemption 2. And in the past I have found that I'm only good at it when I'm stoned. I was a little drunk, but hadn't touched any cannabis yet. Sure enough, I was losing. Badly (buy in was $5, 1890's value, and I had already bought in 3 times... opponent had amassed $25). And this went on for probably an hour or so in real life. Then I turned to my wife, and said I needed to get stoned to win this. She didn't object, and so I went and loaded the Pink Kush. I waited a couple more hands, lost, and then fired up the vape. On my very first hit I got a winning hand. I won a pot of $8 which pulled me back into the game. I had some more smaller hands, a bit of back and forth, and then a few more winning hands. I managed to tie the top opponent around $16, and then I convinced him to go all in with me when I had three of a kind. I managed to shut the entire table down in another 10 hands or so.

It was very amusing to me just how true it ended up being that if I got stoned I would win. Was it a coincidence? Was it that I loosened up? Or that I somehow began to notice patterns that I was blind to before I was stoned? Is Rockstar magically able to tell when players get stoned, and activate a bias in their favor? Perhaps we'll never know...

Append:

It's worth noting that after the poker game was finished I walked my character outside, and I don't know what happened next, but I think I found myself wanted by the law before I knew what was happening, and I was in one of the most busy cities in the game so it was hell to escape... Pretty sure I won something like $30 from poker, but my bounty to clear my name was like $120... So I ended up losing money for all that trouble. But it was fun. I think I did something innocent, like bump into somebody. That game can be so sensitive sometimes.

sativa has that affect because it let you take in more detail. best for game where you need to identify and execute patterns. like fighting game like Dragon Ball FighterZ

Except that Pink Kush is Indica-dominant.

Indica-dominant is not the same as pure indica. there for what i said still stands

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There's no such thing as pure Indica or pure Sativa anymore. We have prohibition to thank for that.

Last night I mixed some Sativa-dominant Gather into what was left of a gram of Pink Kush from the other night. I was fucked up. I don't remember the night so well. I know that towards the end of it I felt like my high was ending so I decided to take some Indica-dominant Balance oil (which is a weak oil, with a balanced ratio of THC:CBD) right before bed. The dropper for the oil was broken though so instead of measuring I just took a quick swig directly from the bottle... Don't do that. I think I was still stoned when I woke up. I don't really remember what time I went to bed at, but I think it was around 2 AM.

they have taken pure sativas from Jamaica

Stolen from Jamaica

yeah i was trying to be polite. because the also polite
those sativas will be very important to man kinda once the understand what they are used for

I have switched back to some more tame "Balance". That's the kind of shit you can vape all night long and just maintain a high instead of getting overly fucked up. Mind you, that's more expensive... But a lot more fun to play with. I am finishing up work duties in a manner of speaking so I haven't been able to get stoned yet tonight... But soon...!

i switch the lag/platform i am dev the AI on and now it is all making sense because i was coding the platform from scratch then building the AI on top using c++

yes that the way to go. work with what your body can manage until you level up.

Bump. My computer desk is broken so I haven't set it up yet in the new house. I have been using my work computer from the kitchen table (and now the coffee table) instead, but after hours when I'm intoxicated I minimize my use of it.

I just invented the code for real world plug and play physics could be uses as a part of self aware AI

piccolo, come back down from the clouds

i was looking for something in the depot i could reprogram to demonstrate it. something like a rayman demo that has a particle engine to implement particle objects

Edit: the way i am going i might really invent a time machine that u guys have been joking about. i have invented unlimited energy conversion (zero point energy) and the jetson's/dragon ball Z anti gravity flying are car. its ably a matter of time no pon intend

edit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_yOueFMe7c

34:59
this video have keys to me figuring out the tree of life
i need to watch this a few more times

yes this is a giving me a very very big break through of understanding level up

Z=(Z^(2))+C