stray kitten and now cat shows up
Mark Oates

We caught a kitten a couple days ago and a couple days later I find another gray cat outside wandering around our place meowing loudly.

The kitten was also meowing loudly during my babysitting time, same "yearning" tone. I'm concerned that the older cat may be the mother (looks like a female, don't ask) looking for the baby, and for reasons beyond my control, the newfound "owner" of the kitten refuses to let the two meet.

here's the best pics I have gotten:
kitten:
http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/596944

cat:
http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/596945

Since I have nothing better to do in my life than meddle in the soap opera of the cat world, what do you think are the odds this is the cat's kitten? and should I do anything about it? and what are the odds that this kitten is stray and not just lost?

HardTranceFan

'Accidentally' let it out so it can be with it's mother - separating the kitten from their mother when it obviously needs her is tantamount to animal cruelty.

StevenVI

The kitten looks old enough to not need its mother.

That said, if the cats are not related, you might want to keep a close eye on them if you try to let them mingle. My fiancee's mother has a cat, and at the beginning of the summer she also got a kitten from a friend who had a bunch of (presumably inbred :-X) kittens.

It took a long time for the old cat to get used to the new one. You turn your head for one minute and the older one was trying to kill the little one.

Here's a blurry picture of the little one, for reference.
http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/596946

Matt Smith

What bait did you use for the kitten?

EDIT: FREE GAME IDEA. Nice little girl (think Angelica from Rugrats) has to acquire a menagerie of local pets & wildlife, using a series of humourously animated traps & snares.

Mark Oates

We threw a blanket on him as he was trying to run away...

So if I were to have the cat and kitten meet, it would be pretty obvious if they were related?

Matt Smith

Yep. if Mama starts licking Baby that's a sure sign. It's prolly her last one, or else she would have stayed with the rest. IMO, it's cruel to keep any cat in a house with no cat door. As the kitten turned up at the house, it must know the neighbourhood so there's no need for the "lock them in the kitchen with a bowl of food for a week until they become acclimatised" crap.

EDIT: That game idea, it's bloody Pokémon, isn't it? real animals tho, so it'd be edjukaishnul

Felix-The-Ghost

Wait I see three different cats there...the kitten looking through the window, the mother with white on her face and another cat not in the other pic. This cat isn't related to the other two? My cat looks...exactly like that black one :o If they're staring at eachother its a possibility...I never had stray cats peek in through the window, and there are stray cats here. In fact both of ours are x-strays and are now strangely sophisticated. They have a cat door but one prefers to ring a "doorbell" to go out--just a wind chime hanging from the door.

Ron Novy

Take the mother in too. If she eats the kitten then... who knows it could have been the mother :P

[edit] It's pretty obvious to me that the cat is (or most likely) the mother or is the adopted mother...

bamccaig

Releash teh kitteh! :P

Sol Blast

I wouldn't worry about it too much.
If Disney movies have taught us anything it's that cute animals will always get their happy ending no matter what you do.
...Just be prepared for calamity ;D.

Matthew Leverton
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So if I were to have the cat and kitten meat, it would be pretty obvious if they were related?

Yeah, they would have a similar taste.

Thomas Harte
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If Disney movies have taught us anything it's that cute animals will always get their happy ending no matter what you do.

What, like Bambi's mother?

bamccaig
Matthew Leverton said:

Yeah, they would have a similar taste.

I can't believe I missed that. ;D

Sol Blast
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What, like Bambi's mother?

Touché. Fine then, the titular cute animal always gets the happy ending. So just to be safe...

Finding Mark Oates Cute Little Stray Kitten. In theaters this christmas!

Thomas Harte

"In a world where not all cats have owners, Disney pictures brings you the story of one kitten's struggle to be reunited with its mother, set to the backdrop of Mark Oates"

james_lohr

I think you mean: " ...story of one kitten's struggle to escape his evil captor: Mr. Oates."

piccolo

Thats not right man you kidnaped the kitten. dont you feel that its not right. your doing only because the mother cant do any thing to you. the mother should have been a lion ill like to see you with hold her off spring from her then.

Mark Oates

Hey man, the kitten's being held hostage by a neighbor. If I had my way, I'd have put the two together right away to see what's going on.

I tried to reason with my neighbor, but she's a selfish bitch.

Matt Smith

You could follow Mama home, find her legal owner, and then call out the SWAT team and helicopters.

Edit: Plan B. dress her in a ninja suit and throw her through the neighbour's window.

Joe larson

Something about this post just has me thinking about Robotfindskitten(http://www.robotfindskitten.org/).

Bruce Perry

Contact the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, or a similar body. Can't do any harm.

Erikster

I love kitties! :D

waits for flames

Neil Black

pulls out flamethrower

Oh there will be flames Erikster.

Bob Keane
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I love kitties!

Grilled or baked? Personally, I prefer sauteed with a bit of garlic.

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IMO, it's cruel to keep any cat in a house with no cat door.

It's probably crueller to give the cat free reign over the neighborhood. I once saw a cat get hit by a car.

alethiophile
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It's probably crueller to give the cat free reign over the neighborhood. I once saw a cat get hit by a car.

It's a question of whether you should be taking the cat's decisions about where it goes into your own hands. I myself think that adult cats should be let outside if they want; they become rather neurotic if kept indoors perpetually. That's what's cruel.

bamccaig

99.9999999% of the population shouldn't be allowed to own pets. They're not dolls. You don't have the right to treat them like humans. It's cruel. Cesar Millan is the first person I've seen that understands dogs and it seems the majority of the Internet (and world) is convinced he's cruel to animals... ::) They prefer that UK bitch that hides behind the owners, blames the dog for his confusion, and encourages the owner to barricade the dog in a back room. ::) It sounds like she's taking Cesar's words right from his show and uses them in her show, but doesn't understand them and completely contradicts them... >:(

gnolam

Take it to an ATM.

HardTranceFan
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You don't have the right to treat them like humans. It's cruel. Cesar Millan is the first person I've seen that understands dogs and it seems the majority of the Internet (and world) is convinced he's cruel to animals...

I've managed to catch one of his sessions, and the behavioural psychology he applied to the dog on that show is the same as what is used on people.

bamccaig
HardTranceFan said:

I've managed to catch one of his sessions, and the behavioural psychology he applied to the dog on that show is the same as what is used on people.

Care to be more specific? ???

Thomas Fjellstrom

If it is the same, theres a reason, adult Cats happen to have the same emotional level as a 2 year old human, as do some breeds of dogs.

They are little people. Mine sure as hell is.

bamccaig
Thomas Fjellstrom said:

They [cats] are little people. Mine sure as hell is.

Exhibit A. :P

Thomas Fjellstrom

All I can say is if it acts like one, why not treat it that way? It asks to go outside, I let it (if its safe). It wants attention, I usually give it to him. Same as I would for a child.

Johan Halmén

My cats go outside freely. One day they will be hit by a car. Until that day they will have lived a good life, chasing mice and birds, climbing in trees. There's not a single scratch on our furniture indoor. Except my youngest kid's bunk bed. That's Lolli's favourite place for a nap.

Neil Black

My cat lives outside. I let him in when I actually lived at home, but I don't think he goes in much these days. I'll have to have a talk with someone about that, what with winter coming on and him being a fairly old cat.

He has two favorite pass-times, depending on whether he is inside or outside. If he is inside he will sit by the door meowing loudly until someone lets him out. If he is outside he will sit by the door meowing loudly until someone lets him in. ???

Stupid kitty.

Thomas Fjellstrom

My cat mostly lives inside. Its just where he prefers to spend most of his time (especially in the winter :o). I do let him go out a lot though when its warm out. And then he usually sticks near to the house. Pretty much just keeps an eye on his territory. If another male cat wanders in he takes it quite personally. Normally hes such a nice sweet, docile cat, but if another male cat comes near he flips out. Actually acts like a male cat instead of a wuss.

LennyLen

I'd never had a cat door before, as I've always rented, and my cat spends most of her time indoors anyway. But now that we're living in a house with one, I haven't been able to teach her how to use it, and so have to leave it propped open with a box.

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Normally hes such a nice sweet, docile cat

Mine's usually pretty sweet as well. My today she beet up my gf's mother's new dog. And it's a big dog.

Johan Halmén
HardTranceFan
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He has two favorite pass-times, depending on whether he is inside or outside. If he is inside he will sit by the door meowing loudly until someone lets him out. If he is outside he will sit by the door meowing loudly until someone lets him in. ???

Stupid kitty.

No, clever kitty. He has his humans well trained :)

Vanneto

If our cat meows too loud for too long, he gets "The Shoe". I wont explain what that means. :P

Schyfis
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My today she beet up my gf's mother's new dog.

As in the vegetable?! I expect pics of a cat whacking a dog with a beet now.

LennyLen
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As in the vegetable?! I expect pics of a cat whacking a dog with a beet now.

Now I'm wondering what I was thinking with "My today."

Neil Black
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No, clever kitty. He has his humans well trained :)

Actually we just gave up and left him outside during the day and inside at night. I always worry about him being outside, though, because there are people around here who would actually swerve to hit a cat.

Johan Halmén

We have nice neighbours. We actually adopted our older cat from relatives to our neighbour. And the neighbours sometime give food to both our cats. The other neighbour seems to like them, too. She grows things in her garden and she might have noticed that our cats chase field-mice. There's a field-mouse year coming up. People are recommended to hang up nesting boxes for owls. Another way would be to let cats chase the mice.

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