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Aside from watching my cat have a baby kitten only to have the kitten die moments later (:'(), luckily, no.
Besides my Brother, an Aunt and, my First friend, no I can't say as I have.
Anyone else have the luxury( sarcasm) of having someone die on them?
Omitting elderly relatives who died of old age...
When I was 18, I was the patrol captain of a life saving squad. We had a guy apparantly drown right under our noses (though it turned out it was actually a heart attack). We spent about 10 minutes trying to revive him while his family watched on, but then the paramedics turned up and pronounced him dead shortly after. I don't remember his name. Gary something, I think.
I've also had a few friends and aquaintences OD over the years, and have also been involved in a a car accident where another friend was killed.
SSC: you work in a nursing home?
LL: Yes, working here has taught me death isn't very dramatic( and that I truly am a cold hearted bastard). It happens in the blink of an eye.
Years ago I summer worked at a hospital. There were mainly old people as patients. When the wether got extra hot, more patients died than usual. My duty was to carry the bodies to the morgue. I also carried food to the different. I never came to actually know the patients but it still strikes me sometimes that everyone I remember is dead now.
SSC: You were doing so well until you said rot in hell..
Sigh..
That guy: Rot in hell.
You're one immature asshole, but I already knew that. If any of the moderators here has any sense of what's right and wrong this thread will be deleted and you will get a warning. We'll see what happens.
If any of the moderators here has any sense of what's right and wrong this thread will be deleted and you would get a warning.
For speaking ill of the dead? How is this worse than speaking ill of the living, which people have done here many times?
If you work in a nursing home you will have to follow certain rules. I'm sure it's against their rules that their employees write "Rot in hell" together with the name of a deceased.
It can indicate that SSC didn't take very well care of this person while he was alive or acted respectfully towards him when he died. Giving the name of the person is what I reacted on. What if someone who knew him Googles his name and finds this thread? Frankly I'm disgusted with his attitude and amazed that he is allowed to work at a nursing home in the first place.
This is just my view on it. If you're fine with it good for you. And in that case don't complain if someone who thinks you should rot in hell takes care of you when you're old and helpless.
How is this worse than speaking ill of the living, which people have done here many times?
The living are able to defend themselves and those that know the living are generally less offended — I guess because when you speak ill of the dead it's more like you're offering a summary of everything they were than just a transient opinion of some guy you met.
Giving the name of the person is what I reacted on. What if someone who knew him Googles his name and finds this thread?
That's a good point, and one which hadn't occured to me.
And in that case don't complain if someone who thinks you should rot in hell takes care of you when you're old and helpless.
I used to help out at a nursing home (it was run by one of my ex's family), and there were some residents who I really hated (generally everyone hated them). This didn't cause me to give them any less care than I gave to other residents.
This didn't cause me to give them any less care than I gave to other residents.
Great! But then again you're not the kind of person who gives out their full names on the Internet and says that you want them to rot in hell after they died.
But then again you're not the kind of person who gives out their full names on the Internet and says that you want them to rot in hell after they died.
True, but the point I was trying to make is that a person's behaviour away from their workplace does not necessarily reflect on their behaviour while working.
I didn't think about the full names, I apologize for that one. I edited my post to make it sound better( but my and everyone else who works with me) overall sentiment did not change.
KL: I understand your feeling but it is premature to call someone immature simply because they voice their discontent with people( living or not). You might find I am an extremely mature person in the real world( so says everyone I know and my bosses).
LL is right, my behavior away from the workplace or anywhere professional does not indicate my behavior in those settings. I take very good care of my residents( cooperative ones and the not so cooperative), I treat them with respect and dignity at all times and I don't baby them( which I find to be very disrespectful).
If any of the moderators here has any sense of what's right and wrong this thread will be deleted and you will get a warning. We'll see what happens.
You get warnings for insulting people and generally being a nuisance. I barely post here anymore and my post was 99% good and I did edit out the "offensive" part.
The only people that I truly cared about that have died: my friend's mom (of cancer), my grandfather (old age) and grandmother (of medical complications; but she also had a full life).
And I'm curious, SSC: how long ago did the first person die? I ask because you claim that death isn't very dramatic yet you write memorials to people who I doubt dropped dead this morning.
They all started to passed away about 2 months ago, the names aren't in order.
I actually agree with Kent on this one (never thought I'd say those words;D).
What is the justification for posting the full names of deceased patients at a nursing home, especially if you're going to make unkind comments about them? Their families don't need that crap when they're mourning the loss of their loved ones. Taking care of the elderly is tough work, and we all can appreciate that, but this isn't the kind of stuff you need to plaster on the internet. Come on, man.
At least make up a fake name for him (jumble letters or something... How about Chan Roppel?). I mean come on, we don't need to know his real name, and I doubt any of us care what his real name is anyway.
I actually agree with Kent on this one (never thought I'd say those words;D).
I can't remember when we have had different opinions but good for you that you're coming along the correct train.
KL: I understand your feeling but it is premature to call someone immature simply because they voice their discontent with people( living or not). You might find I am an extremely mature person in the real world( so says everyone I know and my bosses).
I can only judge you by your actions here. Posting full names of deceased people together with rot in hell is enough for me to get a picture of you. Why did you feel the need to do that anyway? I am also sure that your bosses would think differently of you if they knew your on line work related activities.
I can only judge you by your actions here.
However, you are intelligent enough to know why such judgements are quite likely to be wrong. You should also be aware that people don't always think their actions through and make mistakes.
SSC: You need to train that brain of yours. Stay your hands before doing something and think it through carefully.
If any of the moderators here has any sense of what's right and wrong this thread will be deleted and you will get a warning. We'll see what happens.
Well, personally I did think it was immature of SSC to write something like that about one of the patients. However, I didn't edit his post because if someone was to find what he wrote, then he'd just have to face the consequences...
And he editted his post anyway, so whatever.
Kent Larsson: Rot in hell.
I hope he isn't dead!
Forgive my pagan ignorance, but it was my understanding that one burned in hell (and rots in prison)?
I suppose it depends on whether it's a Dante inspired hell or not.
These were the people who I had to watch die then clean their dead bodies up
What is your job?
Kent: You need to edit this post to remove the quote, if you were serious about what you said.
Dude.. Ronald.. It's illegal for us to write their full names out anywhere.. and they began dying over 2 months ago. V. H. died while I was still there and so did Ron. That was more than 9 months ago.
Why you would even share this with people on the internet who could give less of a rats ass about who you are working with or how you helped clean their dead bodies up is beyond disrespectful to the people named. It is also illegal Ronald. If any of Creswell's administrators decided to look you up anywhere or anything and found this, you would be fired on the spot. Even if Creswell is full of dumbasses who give their CNA's nothing to work with.
Be glad no one is reporting you to state on this. If someone on the internet were crazy enough to do that, that is.
It's illegal for us to write their full names
SailorMoonchld: I do not see the point there.
Why can it be illegal to tell to everybody that someone is dead ? The dead guy will not come back fight you because you are telling the truth .
And their full names will be write on their graveyard, so anyone looking at it will instantly know that they are dead.
I helped to clean the body of a friend, dead beeing hurted by a car while he was walking along the road. He made a fly longer than 25 meters. I can say know that it was not like I love do that, but I was thinking that it will be better for his parents to see him nice . Yeah, I see my friend before his parents. Yeah, I cleaned him up with the guy at the mortuary .
Please explain and quote the silly law you seem to use , what in your country is forbidden about dead people ?
Regards
It's against company policy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIPAA among others.
Health care providers have to maintain a standard level of privacy for all patients. In addition to that, most organizations have internal policies that prohibit employees from disclosing any confidential information regarding clients, etc.
The latter is what probably is of the most concern to SSC, assuming the death announcements have already been made public in a proper manner.
So, because this thread is saved, you could lose your job at any minute in the future because of this? Man, you must be kicking yourself now..
Some here thinks that this is fine. And others don't, like me. Nothing more to add really but I'll still give a few replies to comments directed to me (and not SSC).
You should also be aware that people don't always think their actions through and make mistakes.
Of course. He changed it so it's all right with me now. To write it in the first place is still a no-no and indicates something. But I guess no harm was done.
Rot in hell.
Has it got some kind of point to it?
Why can it be illegal to tell to everybody that someone is dead ? The dead guy will not come back fight you because you are telling the truth .
I guess you join the group of people who simply don't get it, like kazzmir. I'm sure it won't say "Rot in hell" on his gravestone.
Well, personally I did think it was immature of SSC to write something like that about one of the patients. However, I didn't edit his post because if someone was to find what he wrote, then he'd just have to face the consequences...
Now that I think about it it's a good call by both you (to not change it) and SSC (to change it).
You need to edit this post to remove the quote, if you were serious about what you said.
Thanks for pointing it out. And I've changed my quotation.
It's against company policy.
Nice of you to change your original post after thinking it through.
I guess you join the group of people who simply don't get it, like kazzmir.
I get it, I just think it is silly. Dead is dead. No more life. No more nothing. Nothing else than dust. And it was publically announced before SSC post, so I do not think something is illegal. I think SSC thread is as this one, informational. He just wanna share his feeling with us.
I'm sure it won't say "Rot in hell" on his gravestone.
I probably will as I do not trust in god/devil. No matter what people will write on my gravestone. When I will be dead, everyone will be allowed to do what he wants with my body. I will not be there anymore :-D
That was more than 9 months ago.
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It is still illegal, even 9 month ago ? So if a member of your family dead and if you have to work on it, you will not be allowed to share your sadness with some other people as it can be publically viewed ?
I get it, I just think it is silly. Dead is dead. No more life. No more nothing. Nothing else than dust. And it was publically announced before SSC post, so I do not think something is illegal.
I wouldn't know if it's illegal or not. He could loose his job which is pretty harsh. Now that he changed his post I don't see it as likely even if someone reported him.
I probably will as I...
I'm sure it won't though. The whole "deep philosophical" discussion we could end up in isn't of interest to me.
Even 9 month ago? So if a member of your family dead, you will not be allowed to share your sadness with some other people as it can be publically viewed?
You said that you "get it" when you really don't.
I think he might have been trying to come up with the unlikely scenario that he works at the same place his relative lives. In that case, you'd still have to balance your public statements between your personal and professional views. So called "conflicts of interest" can occur within any profession.
I get it, I just think it is silly. Dead is dead. No more life. No more nothing.
The deceased may be beyond caring, but their families are not, was the point that Kent was trying to make, I believe.
so I do not think something is illegal.
If I understand the law correctly (which I probably don't), it would technically be SSC's workplace that would be considered to have breached privacy laws, not SSC himself. While he may have broken his contractual obligations with his employer, this could only get him fired, not prosecuted.
you will not be allowed to share your sadness
Unfortunately he wasn't sad, he said 'rot in hell'.
The reason I said it isbecause he obviously forgot. And yes, it's still illegal after 9 months. Don't ask me why, it just is. HIPAA as Matthew posted, states why I'm sure. And as Matthew said, we have to keep a level of privacy for the resident and the residents' family. Also there is something about dignity. If you are talking about them and you name their full name and what their condition is and what diseases they have, it's a dignity issue. Also identity theft... Just a whole bunch of things.