Frustration
Anonymous

Sorry.

I forgot that you're a bunch of narrow-minded rednecks who don't know how to read, much less put yourself into someone else's situation. It was foolish to think that anyone here would actually read what I wrote and try to reply without trying to be a wiseass who knows everything about everything (obviously illogically assuming a lot of things about me that nobody in their right mind would do).

Since you CAN edit your posts, which is stupid, I'm now "removing" this thread's body (replacing it with this message). Thanks for nothing and for wasting my time with your bullshit.

(The censorship on this forum is retarded, BTW.)

miran
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Beware of heavy complaining and a generally depressing text.

Yeah, you got it so bad. Is there a reason to go on anyway?

Anonymous

miran: Eh?

miran

OK, I read the post now.

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I never seem to "make it", no matter how hard I try.

Maybe you should try less hard.

Anonymous
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Maybe you should try less hard.

[sarcasm]Yeah... that'll ensure success.[/sarcasm]

AngelChild

You could trying out a few new completely different things - take up a random sport (ultimate frisbee is fun :)) or maybe learn how to play an instrument, a foreign language, ANYTHING with other people. The more time you spend on yourself the more you'll continue to feel bad and wallow in self pity. I appreciate your need for support, but I honestly don't think that the internet is a good place to find it - there's no substitute for a real hug or a smile :). Happiness doesn't just happen, it's a conscious decision to be happy - it's really hard to start with, but if you feel you have nothing to lose then why not try it?

Also, have a big hug (but I advise you find someone who will give you one offline, as t'were :)).

Dennis
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WTF am I supposed to do? I never seem to "make it", no matter how hard I try.

Do ONLY what you WANT to do. Go code a game!

james_lohr
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and messes with my grammar

How so?

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...for being rude to people and spitting in their food.

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I never wanna open a book again that I haven't obtained from my own free will.

What you need is to change your attitude.

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and yet my situation prevents me from doing what I want

Welcome to life.

Anonymous
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Do ONLY what you WANT to do. Go code a game!

I wonder what would happen if I did...

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How so?

When it randomly replaces certain curse words, which is silly in the first place, it removes periods and stuff for no good reason.

Dennis
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I wonder what would happen if I did...

You'll never know, if you don't try, right?
Maybe you are currently thinking that everything around you is pitch black, that it won't matter what you do, everything will just worsen your situation.
It's your choice: Continue to paint the world black or bring back color, pleasing yourself, by doing only those things you really want to do.
If your down and depressed, then your TOP PRIORITY goal IS to make yourself happy again.
Everything else will have to wait.

X-G
Richard Phipps

That's a Strange remix of Queen.. :)

Anonymous
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Shinji is emo

???

kentl

Talk to a psychologist could be a good idea, you seem depressed. If that's something you are not willing to do, then do something to change things in your life.

Joel Pettersson
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You could trying out a few new completely different things - take up a random sport (ultimate frisbee is fun :)) or maybe learn how to play an instrument, a foreign language, ANYTHING with other people. The more time you spend on yourself the more you'll continue to feel bad and wallow in self pity. I appreciate your need for support, but I honestly don't think that the internet is a good place to find it - there's no substitute for a real hug or a smile :). Happiness doesn't just happen, it's a conscious decision to be happy - it's really hard to start with, but if you feel you have nothing to lose then why not try it?

Also, have a big hug (but I advise you find someone who will give you one offline, as t'were :)).

While that could indeed be good advice for some people, if he's anything like me, which there seem to be a relatively good chance he is, it will be about the opposite of what he would likely find useful.

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My advice would be to avoid any and all excessive social contact, keeping to yourself as much as possible, and try to have as fun as possible. Do whatever you find the most entertaining. The more you can live yourself into it and forget everything else, the better. Then, when you feel you are ready, try to think through your situation carefully, concentrating on thinking out solutions to your problems. Ask for help wherever you know you will get useful practical advice, instead of useless sympathy and pity.

Just be careful not to lock yourself into an endless loop of conclusionless, negative thinking. If/when that start happening, it's time to concentrate on enjoying yourself again, as you will otherwise just get depressed and unable to come up with any solution(s).

Anonymous
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Talk to a psychologist could be a good idea, you seem depressed.

Most retarded piece of advice ever. Do I sound like a person who doesn't know that I'm in a shitty situation? A psychologist won't give me money -- he/she will CHARGE me money (that I don't have).

Why do I even bother talking about this? I only get the expected replies anyway.

Joel Pettersson: That's right. I certainly don't want to have anything to do with most people, and those that I would want to hang out with live "too far" away. Like I wouldn't mind talking to other Allegators IRL, but I never really knew any "real" geeks in school and so. That's partly why I don't hang out with them (or anyone here) anymore.

Anyway... since quality doesn't matter to people, my Web stuff keeps failing. Since that's the only thing I know stuff about and which could possibly make me money, I'm pretty much fuc|<ed (and I'm not talking about a hot blonde).

Dennis
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Why do I even bother talking about this?

Because your stuck with yourself and need external input/opinions enabling you to think clear again?

nonnus29
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I feel no motivation to do anything commercial anymore
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Getting a "normal" job isn't just next to impossible here -- I don't even want it
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College/university wasn't fun either (yes, I tried it)
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My Xbox's HDD just broke down, so I have nothing to play

Your living in la-la land dude. It's pretty unrealistic to generate income from a site. You'd have to get alot of traffic and get alot of advertising to make a go of it.

You don't want to work.

You don't want to go to school to get a degree.

Your toys broken so you can't play with it.

:'( Wah :'(

We have a word for people like you were I'm from; 'bum'. So continue living off your parents and be happy with your life as a bum.

Bottom line is you've got to make oppurtunities for yourself. I have a pretty decent job right now. How? I met the guy who helped me get it in the Reserves. You've got to network and take what you can get when you can get it. So many diss Mcdee's, but you learn excellent work skills there. Help desks are the same way. These places have high turnovers so it can be easy to move into supervisory positions.

You need to expand your horizons. You only limit yourself.

kentl
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Why do I even bother talking about this? I only get the expected replies anyway.

Who knows? You are in desperate need of attention? You will certainly not get any advise here which you haven't already thought off and dismissed.

Mars

Couldn't you develop some web sites for small local businesses and institutions? Just to pay your food.

Anonymous
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Your living in la-la land dude.

It's "you're", and WTH is "la-la land"?

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It's pretty unrealistic to generate income from a site.

No, it's not. I wonder who's living in "la-la land".

Matthew Leverton

I would join a suicide group if I were in your situation.

kentl

I still think that you should talk to a psychologist. It could help you, if you go through a doctor it won't cost you a lot. It is nothing to be ashamed off you know, being in need of some mental guidance.

HoHo
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No, it's not.

How many people you know that make a living only from some sites? From one site?
How many of those people are like you who don't really want to work?

Anonymous

Ignorant thinking-he's-so-funny wiseass after ignorant thinking-he's-so-funny wiseass... How surprising.

Arvidsson

To find happiness in life you must live by these words, greatest of them all: DISCIPLINE, WILL, SELF-CONTROL

ReyBrujo

Buy a Nintendo DS and have some fun :P

Seriously, life is much harder than not being able to study, having no money and breaking a console. Wish I had the problems you state. After abandoning school at fourth year (just 2 subjects to get my System Analyst title and 12 for the System Information Engineering one) four years ago, now I have a great urge to come back, redo some subjects (the ones I passed on 2001 and haven't done the final exams) and finish the career. I now realize it was wise to take that break, it made me realize I need to finish studying, if only to get a title. Not because I need it, but it makes you feel all fuzzy and warm ;)

Job... let me tell you about jobs. If you like car engines, you become a mechanic and love what you do and can use it in real life. If you like cooking, you become chef and love what you do and can use it in real life. If you like programming, you become a programmer... and hell begins. You are forced to sign exclusive contracts that say things like "if you write anything while working for us, it is ours". You need to compete with Pointy Haired Bosses who believe you can change the company future in a night (our CEO, in example, asked why his speed connection was lower than the support team in the other building, since he was closer to the internet gateway than them).

There is nothing wrong working in a McDonald's. A friend began working there a year before I left school. He is now the administrator of the southern area, which includes around 150 places. A friend began selling tickets in a shopping, now he is the director of the shopping cinema in a city near here. They had an advantage: most are in McDonald's as "temporary peasants". Nobody ever thinks in staying in such a place for a long period of time. That is when you spend two or three years there (at least down here), you are promoted.

Another friend began working as help desk. Until one day a computer broke and the tech wasn't around. He knew some about computers, diagnosticed and fixed it, and was moved to the hardware sector. After three years, he is now in charge of all the computers in the complex.

Personal projects are always risky. A friend's husband worked in a small company that fixed hospital machines. After two years, he left and founded his own company with my friend. Using the contact list he had created while working in that place, he offered his services at less cost. After a year, he has around 20 clients, bought a car to speed things up, and two machines that are used in hospitals to clean instruments after a surgery (and which most hospitals don't own, but rather rent from companies like his). The same happend with another friend who began working as an aide in a car repair business.

Hmm... thinking about my friends made me realize they have been more successful than me... now I am depressed :P

I get up at 8 o'clock every day, drink my orange juice and leave at 9. After two hours and a half, I arrive job, where I work from 11 to 19 (if we are in a release week, it is not uncommon to stay all night there, eating pizza, drinking coke and trying to squash as many bugs from our Bugzilla as possible). I would have been stressed had I not bought something to amuse myself while travelling on bus (first a MP3 player, then Dragonlance books over 100 now, now a Nintendo DS). I wish I could stay in home half day, the other just walking around the park watching birds sing and people walk, but I cannot.

Managing a site is hard. Making it successful, harder. Getting money out of it, much more. I suggest you not to try it unless you have a very unique idea, a niche to exploit, and some way of surviving the first six months. If you don't, get yourself at least a summer job and get some experience with human beings. Life is hard, and many give up. That doesn't mean if you work hard you will get promoted. You may spend four years selling hamburgers and never get a raise. But at least you tried.

X-G

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To find happiness in life you must live by these words

No, happiness is what you get when you don't control yourself. Survival is what you need those for. :P

Richard Phipps

Now I'm depressed Rey.. :P :)

Arvidsson
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No, happiness is what you get when you don't control yourself. Survival is what you need those for.

Not that I wrote that seriously, but the WILL part includes the stuff you want to do, therefore brings happiness. The other two just controls so that you don't overdo it, so you find yourself in a situation where you can't be happy anymore.

OICW

You have three basic options:
1)Commint suicide - I'd not do that, because you'd definately make sad all the people who're loving you. At least your parents.
2)Go to college (the programming one) -> find a job in software company.
3)Work in yellow M and make some money. Then you can program your game and eventually sell it.

Well I know that you've expected answers like this, so you know what to do, just do it. Nobody can do something by doing nothing. I remember a year ago when I was bored with my way of life but then I found some activities which I like, and now everyday (except today) I think that life is good ;)

Arthur Kalliokoski

Another point is deciding not to "keep up with the Jones". If it kills you to live in a manner that "keeps up appearences", then lower your standard of living. Doesn't your computer play games? And couldn't your mother share it instead of having a relatively expensive laptop? I could go on and on.

Evert

I agree, you sound like somone with a depression.

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Most retarded piece of advice ever. Do I sound like a person who doesn't know that I'm in a shitty situation?

No, but do you know how to get out of it? That's where a psychologist comes in. They can also help you finding what sort of job you could do and help you make the contacts you need.

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My advice would be to avoid any and all excessive social contact, keeping to yourself as much as possible, and try to have as fun as possible. Do whatever you find the most entertaining. The more you can live yourself into it and forget everything else, the better. Then, when you feel you are ready, try to think through your situation carefully, concentrating on thinking out solutions to your problems. Ask for help wherever you know you will get useful practical advice, instead of useless sympathy and pity.

Wow. That has to be about the worst advice I can think of giving to someone who's depressed.

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No, happiness is what you get when you don't control yourself.

True.

Joel Pettersson
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Wow. That has to be about the worst advice I can think of giving to someone who's depressed.

Well, it works for me atleast.

SonShadowCat

I agree with nonnus, you just sound like a bum. Even I'm depressed but at least I went/goto school, have a job, etc etc. Sitting on your ass complaining about little things like a broken xbox or school being no fun isn't going to get you anywhere or rectify your "horrible" situation.

Theres nothing anyone can do if you refuse to help yourself.

SailorMoonchld

Did you take a wrong turn on your way to Livejournal? O_o

You should try harder in getting a job. Call them back and ask if they are still hiring. And try taking class you're interested in instead of complaining about your situation to online people.. Who most likely don't care.. >>;

And when you get a job, use it to get a new Xbox.

X-G

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ngiacomelli

I hate to be rude, but: get over yourself. I mean, honestly, was there any point to this thread? Was it for pity? Did you want us to donate to some obscure PayPal account so that you can sit at home and make a video game?

Your X-Box broke? That's terrible, really it is. You are aware that people in this world die of malnutrition on a daily basis, aren't you?

Perhaps you'd enjoy life more if you weren't a total reclusive character?

amarillion
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College/university wasn't fun either (yes, I tried it). I never wanna open a book again that I haven't obtained from my own free will.

Care to elaborate? For me, my years at the University were the best thing that ever happened to me. (I'm not saying that it should be like that for everybody, I just want to know what the difference is)

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It sucks donkey <-- I didn't type that. This forum changes half of my text and messes with my grammar.

I'm sorry, you were under the impression that you have freedom of speech on these forums? :D:D:D

Anonymous

(See new thread body.)

imaxcs

You are so wretched! (is that what you wanted to hear? ::))

gnolam

The king of maturity strikes again!

X-G

~Craaaawling iiiin my skiiiiin / These wooooounds they wiiiilll not heeeaaallll

Richard Phipps

Well, I've just read the new thread body.

I'm curious as to what exactly you wanted us to do? Do you think our words would change your situation?

We offered you things you could do to change your problems and then you take out your anger on us. :(

ReyBrujo

Maybe he was hoping to set a Paypal account for us to use? We will never know, unless he opens a new thread.

Anyways, without the body, this discussion is pointless.

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