I am about to make a serious -- perhaps my last -- attempt of making money through the Web. (Not the "fancy sports car, blonde chick in a big mansion and own data center" kind of money, but more like "paying the minimal living expenses" kind.)

I have picked the category "videogaming", because it is something that I know stuff about and that I "burn" for, and at the same time, it's big commercially. It's really the one thing that I think might work me.

I can hear you, screaming from your chair/bed/toilet/wherever the hell you're reading this: "Oh, no. Not another lame and crappy gaming site!". Then again, you might not be screaming anything at all, wondering what the fuck I'm talking about. Anyway...

So what? There's definitely an audience, and at least a certain per cent must appreciate non-bullshit, clean sites with interesting news and articles. Because that's what I intend to fill this site with. Interesting news and articles, that is. Not bullshit.

I am not planning to review games. At least not in the beginning. The reason for this is that I doubt that anyone will send me free copies of videogames to review unless the site is really popular and has a big influence on gamers. (Reviewing warez doesn't sound too serious.)

So... it'll be all about news and articles. And of course a community forum (written by hand, of course). Things are happening all the time in the gaming world -- especially now, with the upcoming next generation, and I feel that I would like to write about this.

The reason I even mention it here is that I don't want to jump into another dead-end project. You'll probably call me crazy if I say that I expect this to lead anywhere, but I really do. At least I've got to TRY, right?

Alright. I'm looking for co-workers. That's right. Now I've said it. No, you won't get paid. Then again, all you need is to write and publish it on the site which I will code and maintain. Why would you do that? Well... maybe you like writing and see this as an opportunity to reach out to people. Or something. I'm hoping to find one or a few people like that out there somewhere, who hopefully have their lives set up better than me, and can afford to do this in their free time.

The income would come from Google AdSense. AdSense actually works. I've gained experience with it. It's just that you need a stable site with good contents and SEO. I can do it. I really just want to pay the rent and be able to buy noodles and Coca-Cola to fuel my body while I do what I like best -- create games. With Allegro.

I hope that if anyone around here is lurking with his or her typing abilities, and are just looking for some way to get it out to the world, they'll respond to this thread (or contact me by other means, such as e-mail).

Obviously, I understand if you, even if you're interested, don't dare to take on any responsibility for actually sticking to this project. I understand that I will have to do everything (or almost everything) myself. It'd just be nice to have someone who is equally interested in the gaming industry (it's OK to dislike modern games -- in fact, I'm an oldschooler myself) who also knows how to type. I understand if you'd want to see the site before you make any decisions, but I try to build up a solid impressions with this thread for you to base your opinions/thoughts on.

Some basic ideas about the site:

• It'll be international and in English only.

• All news and articles will be commentable without pre censorship.

• It will (or at least SHOULD) have well-written articles and news instead of boring shit that nobody really is interested in reading.

• It will feature a proper URL scheme and stable backend. It will, like all my sites, be 100% valid W3-wise and make use of good practice, if possible with no "black hat" SEO (which shouldn't be necessary with all the original contents).

If you want to join, you should know English well. If possible, please give me an example of your writing skills.

(Just because it's a serious site, that doesn't mean we can't speak freely. It's supposed to be an independent Web site that you can trust and which isn't partial. After all, it won't have any "official" sponsors with special TOS agreements. Swearing and generally writing in a shameless fashion will be OK, as long as the grammar and spelling is correct.)

Does this sound sane? In my head, it does. As I hopefully have made clear, this is far from my first venture into the Web business, but I really believe that I've learned from my past mistakes and found something I can make work. The question is if I've convinced you...

Comments and stuff would be very much appreciated, even if I tend to ignore negative such...

Means of contacting me, other than replying to this thread:

• E-mail: kimmoalm@hotmail.com.

• MSN Messenger: Same as e-mail address.

• Other IMs, such as ICQ: Sorry. Not anymore.

• IRC: Let's meet someplace if you're interested.

That seems to be why you may be failing.

I'm the same way. I want to do everything myself. It just doesn't work.

I would strongly suggest otherwise. There are plenty of existing forum packages that should suit you fine. Work on a template for one of them as opposed to creating an entire forum from scratch. Again, don't try to do everything yourself!

I think we've all had this dream, but if you think you can give it a shot then go for it!

I really doubt that everyone has had this dream... and to be honest, it's not even a dream to me. It's just something that I know might work and a way to get an income and still be proud over it.

About using pre-written solutions: hell no! They are bloated, slow and bandwidth-eating. No way in hell am I using those.

I could have a go at writing, but I haven't really been following video games for at least 5 years so my specialist subject would be games 1985-2000. I suppose I could do a few pieces on the theory of games, why people play, etc. I wrote for a Nintendo 64 site about 1,000 years ago but I can't really remember what about as I never owned one. Possibly I was meant to provide a point of view from the Playstation world, I don't know. I definitely wrote a piece about the launch and subsequent near-weekly price drops so this must have been somewhere around 1997.

I don't have any example work, but I could write a piece for that purpose. Presumably you'd want all contributing authors to prepare one article before the site launches and otherwise to contribute periodically after launch? What are you looking for in terms of length?

First, it should be mentioned that this idea originated as an alternative for the IT news site IDG.se, which is basically a really crappy IT news site, and yet the largest one in Sweden. I decided that the chances of getting a crowd reading my news would be too small, though, and that it was pretty much hopeless.

The second version, still in early alpha stages in my head, was something that would've fit perfectly for geeknews.com (or nerdnews.com), both which are taken and not used for any good purpose (the first one wanted three grand for me to buy it -- I bid $5 tops).

So... I ended up with the gaming site. Which really suits me the best. Finding a .com that's not taken and has a nice, catchy and still original name won't be easy, but that shouldn't really matter too much.

Judging by the way you type here, you seem to know English well. It seems to be the case with most "evolved" geeks, actually. ("Geek" is not a bad word in my vocabulary.)

Yeah. It'd be nice with a sample. I have noted that many sites split up their articles into several pages (possibly to show more ads), and this is something I strongly contradict in my Web religion and philosophy. There is absolutely no good logical reason to split up the same article into several pages.

The news items, as I see it, will consist of a fancy header title, a summarization of < 128 chars and a body text of everything from a couple of paragraphs to an entire "page", meaning 5-8 mid-length paragraphs (wild guess).

The articles, which basically should be personal opinions/thoughts about the gaming industry, could be themed with current topics, still looking back at past events and making a nice little story out of it. If this is obvious to you, just warp back one minute with your Personal Time Traveler. What? They don't sell those yet? My bad. Forget I said anything.

Seriously, though... You're more than welcome to submit any sample texts, but there's a long way to go. I'm going to put my soul into this project and work harder than ever before to make something good out of it.

Of course it'll be easy to publish the news, and once you get "accepted", I won't have to "verify" your items, but will let you upload them yourself whenever you feel like it. It's when we reach this point that things get really interesting.

Naturally, the author of each text will be properly credited. Perhaps I shouldn't compile a document with "standards" for how a text should be written to "fit in" (as long as it follows basic rules, of course). In fact, it might be a good idea to mix typing styles.

I have my own little version of English, where I like to swap the comma with the quotation mark, because I think that it makes no sense to say: "Mary had a little lamb," and she was happy. (As opposed to: "Mary had a little lamb", and she was happy.) Any comments on that?

Nobody knows better than me how hard it is to start up a community with absolutely no money or contacts. Without sounding like I'm going to give up early (because I'm not): I can only do my best. Sometimes, it's not just up to yourself if something goes well or bad.

Just some thoughts, ideas that might make your project easier:

- Start a beta version of your site with a pre-written forum, as the forum won't be much used, unless you start already with a good amount of readers.

- Make your way from the bottom to the top, don't expect to have everything finished before putting the site up, that way Java would never exist, neither Windows, neither Linux, neither me... By that I mean you should first put your site up, then start improving it and getting good audience, you could even start in a free webspace as a beta version.

Well, that's it, I strongly recommend you to do that, or at least consider doing it.

You will fail. Your enthusiasm will burn out as quickly as it started. You announced your plan on here because you know you will fail. You think that if you tell people about this idea, you will be obliged to follow through on it. But that never works.

Is it monday yet anyway?

Just don't get any silly ideas, if you fail, like "suicide" or sth.:)

Wrong. You've got to DO. TRYing is not enough.
GO! DO IT!
(you're still reading? I thought you had sth. to do... GO GO GO, no time to loose!)

Whats sth?

@ negativity. I have enough of that myself.

Oh, and another thing... Being able to edit posts is the spawn of satan. I abuse it just because I can.

Kimmo: You could cannibalize my e-z-cms+forum if you'd like - I've made it as easy as possible, so even Amnesty members can use it

Forum not finished yet, but getting there.. www.amnesty.se/uppsala

EDIT: And PS - maybe it would be cool to call your site HogWash - I betcha someone could make a cool log with a hog fighting a flushing hose

then of course there is the board me and Mokkan are working on (BirdBoard) which is quite functional. You are mistaken to think that all prewritten board are bloated and slow, the well known prewritten boards are all bloated and slow from what Ive seen, as well as a fair portion of the unknown ones, but from what Ive seen, BirdBoard is quite fast (well, the version on the site isnt because its very old and has a cookie bug slowing it down which we are all to lazy to fix, but...)

Any way, that was just my shameless spam for the day.

What the hell did you smoke?

To Kimmo Alm: go for it, try at least.
I would be interested but i sincerely don't have the time, all i can give you now is encouragement.

Why the hell do people keep bugging me about using pre-made stuff? I would never, ever do that. I have made several forums over the years, and I even run a Swedish one: http://www.powerplayers.se/.

The technical part is not the problem. I need people with me who are willing to "waste" some of their time to help me and to get their thought out.

(Wow... some weird bugs in the censorship script on this forum keeps messing up my posts!)

It's not too shabby. I always hear that everything I do is impossible/unrealistic/bad.

Sorry, but if you had spent the time writing this post on writing PHP code you would have advanced in making your homepage.
Now you have got a bunch of stupid advices and no progress.

It saves a lot of time. Unless the basis of your site is the forum there is very little benefit to designing your own from scratch. Even then the benefits of using an existing package outweigh the benefits of coding your own.

There are likely a wide range of existing forum packages that are suitable for your situation.

Web site = collection of Web pages.
Web page = Web document/file.
Home( )page = first Web page on a Web site.
Start page = Web browser's start page.

Front page = physical newspaper term.

Moreover, using pre-made Web solutions is cheating and equivalent to claiming that you've beat Doom with the "iddqd" and "idkfa" cheat codes turned on.

Front page = crappy WYSIWYG editor

But... he's still right. You could have advanced in making your web site, which generally starts with the home page

Is the intent of the site to show off your personal prowess as a coder, or to bring content to readers?

If it's the latter, you have nothing to gain from writing your own system. If it's the former, you must write your own system.

http://www.gamernews.com/ <-- I want to beat people like those who did this to death with a rusty shovel.

I do things myself for three reasons:

• I have 100% control and can save TONS of bandwidth and CPU time.

• It gets tailored and optimized for my solution. I hate bullshit and especially bloated sites.

• It gives me personal satisfaction, knowing that I didn't cheat.

If I had the time (basically, if I could freeze time for one hundred years), I would write my own OS, my own gaming library, etc...

("hogwash"? I didn't type that.)

I often asked myself why the allegro community would not make a single commercial game. We have a great platform, we have great artists, great programmers that all have individual special abilities, great designers, but everyone is so pessimistic.

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Hands up, if you would get the offer to join a big team, who of you would join?

As for myself, I doubt that anyone would pay for my games, even though I myself of course will find them to be the ultimate form of gaming...

So I'd rather have it as my hobby, making games that I really want to make, instead of having it as my job and make shitty Electronic Arts POS games with FMVs and scripted events all day long.

So you can get on with the job of creating site content instead of asking others to do it for nothing.

Steve++: You shouldn't stay out too long in the sun.

He's still right.

Kimmo, if you were serious about this, you would get on with it instead of wasting time insulting me.

People post here all the time with announcements for great projects, asking for other people to add content before there is actually an infrastucture in which to add it. Anyone that expresses an interest in joining gets sick of waiting for the project originator to finish something.

If anyone has any good articles, there are millions of great existing sites that will take their submissions. Why wait for someone to start another one?

So here is my practical encouragement for you: Make your site. Make it good. Come back here when it's ready, then people that are willing to make a contribution will actually be able to make a contribution.

wtf is that Gamer News site?... nothing there at all :p a-holes

http://www.goodgame.se/ is a pretty nice looking (swedish) gaming site - alas, I don't have any confidence in their judgement. they gave "F-Zero GX" (or whatever) mega-high score, and it was sucky to the max - felt like a ship-on-a-stick

Steve++: Obviously, you didn't read what I wrote. Please do so before replying exactly like I knew that at least one person would.

Torbjörn Josefsson: That's my point. Some rich bastards buy all the good domains and don't use it.

First, we are a bunch of individuals sprinkled all over the globe, and that does not help if you have to work on something. Second, such a big team would need direction and clear leadership - and that's not something that is easy to achieve amongst 25 hobbyists and individualists. Third, big, quality projects are prone to death by lack of motivation, lack of common vision, lack of... pretty much anything.

We even tried such a team once... anyone remember Team Allegro? Lots of people joined, nothing got done except of generic this-handling or that-handling code, a few 3d models and little more. Heck, the first two weeks or so were spent on deciding what game we want to do!

It takes more than a bunch of talented people to make a good team.

Plus, if you are like me, you hate working in a team.

You're doomed then...

Yet, you're asking others to help you.;) If you really hate working in a team then why are you even asking others for help or comments?
You don't hate working in a team.

LOOSE <-> TIGHT
LOSE <-> WIN/GAIN

See, I can play English Nazi too.

Kimmo, your quote-swapping thing is actually correct in British English. We put the punctuation inside the quote if the quote is of a whole sentence, and outside otherwise. Sometimes it's unclear which to do. But we do change the final full stop into a comma if we want to append something outside the quote ("Stop," said John), and if we split a quote, then a comma goes inside there too ("Marmite," said Herbert, "is the most potent source of energy in the world.").

As I understand it, American English requires you to put punctuation inside the quotes in all cases, even cases like "this one". That doesn't make much sense to me either.

I'm afraid I have precious little time of my own these days, and far too much I want to do. That and you have kind of alienated me. Good luck with the project though.

Oh, by the way, you should ignore negative comments.

Well, in my case I simply have zero interest in something like that. I wouldn't have the time anyway. And I think this holds for more people around here.

Kimmo Alm: Good luck, do your best!

OH:

Yes, you don't generally put a , before `and'.
I don't know about American English, but putting punctuation outside quotation marks (or inside parentheses for that matter) looks weird and ugly to me...

Hehe. What I meant by hating to work in a team only applies to work that you cannot easily distinguish from one author to another. Get my point? If I made a game where I coded it, and I teamed up with a skilled pixel artist and a music composer, I'd be fine. But if somebody else were to share the code with me... it'd feel bad.

Same thing with this project. I'm more than happy for co-workers in the sense that they write material, but I wouldn't want them fiddeling with the backend code. Does it make sense now?

Bruce Perry: Have I alienated you?! That doesn't sound good... is that bad?

Evert: Hehe. It was just an example. I just wanted to show that quotes should actually quote grammar too: "Beans, butter, mustard and milk", and so he went hunting hawks.

(Yes, my examples suck. In Swedish, you probably wouldn't even have that comma.)

Shortly after the bombings in London, you asked me if I'd been bombed lately. You flooded me with notices saying "Retarded?" Then you said "BOOM! Headshot!" and I blocked you.

Evert, when it comes to parentheses, I apply the same rules. If I'm quoting one or more whole sentences, the full stop goes inside (that's only if it's a full sentence though). (On a side note, I always put a space before the opening parenthesis. That's the way it's been in every published book I've ever seen.)

Another thing I don't do is start a sentence, open parentheses, finish the sentence, start a new one, and then close the parentheses (like this. It seems wrong to me, but I've seen people do it).

So YOU're entheh? What's wrong with asking if you got bombed? (Banning me for no reason inevitably leads to flooding.)

Furthermore, I'm progressing with the gaming site. I'm not only a sayer, but also a doer.

BTW... Anyone else feel like he/she might consider joining? It'd be nice to have people from different parts of the world (more continuous news flow, different views on things, etc.). Especially, it'd be nice with a US and JP guy/girl.

Eew! I've seen people do it too, but it's wrong. You can't logically start a sentence and finish it inside parentheses and start another one. I think that most often when people do something like that they intend to use an em-dash (or whatever it's called) --- like this.
I also put a space before an opening parenthesis, unless my spacebar malfunctions (and I tend to avoid placing an entire sentence within parentheses --- it looks rather ugly in my opinion and it `feels' wrong, as though it's against the logical construction of the text).
Anyway, I've been known to ponder on a line of text for a while, trying to decide if I should remove a comma or not.

Congratulations on the progress Oh, you can always borrow ideas from X-G's forums ...

Evert, specifically I've seen Korval do it.

"You appear to be using Microsoft Internet Explorer to view this website. Due to the poor standards compliance of that browser, it might not be able to display this website properly. It is not supported and we strongly encourage you to switch to another browser. Click here to learn more about Internet Explorer and alternatives."

Why would I "borrow ideas" from a forum that incorrectly detects Opera 8.5 as MSIE and uses "click here" for links?

I respect X-G, but this lowers his status points a lot.

I was thinking more of the content to be honest. And have a look at that sign-up page.

What's wrong with "click here" for links?

Ahem. I use Opera 8.5 myself, and the forum correctly identifies me. I'm not sure exactly what you're doing, but my code is not the culprit. Maybe you've set Opera to report as being MSIE? In that case, the behaviour is exactly as expected. Press the F12 key and select a more appropriate option at the bottom.

I use the "Click here" type of link because I expect people who use MSIE to be of the "Average Joe" variety with a brain capacity roughly equal to that of a garden snail.

Did you tell Opera not to identify itself as Internet Explorer?

Of course I identify as MSIE (which UA string is far from clean). The point of this is that certain lame sites don't let non-MSIE browsers in.

Detecting Opera properly is done with "*Opera*". Just a tip. I don't know why anyone would match an exact string instead of checking for a string in the UA string, which is much more reliable in this case.

About the "click here" text... Even if MSIE people are retarded, it's still wrong. If they see it on the site that enlightens them about the suckitude of their browser, maybe they think that the usage of "click here" for a link is correct, too.

PS: Whoa! That's one heavy anti-spambot security thing you've got there, X-G. Or maybe it's just to make sure that people can spell?

See, I knew you two would get on

You haven't actually said why the use (not usage) of "click here" for a link is wrong.

If you want to pretend you're MSIE, then I'm not going to stop you. I find it pretty laughable that you're complaining about my code detecting you as the browser you are telling the site that you are.

Both.

Because it's... wrong! If you print a document saying "click here", what would you think if you read it later? Click what? What does clicking a paper mean?

You're supposed to embed links in sentences. "Go learn more about alternatives" would be a fine link in this case. It's like seperating presentation from structure (like with HTML and CSS).

(You don't just "click" on stuff on the Web, either, so it's wrong in any case. You could follow the link in any number of ways.)

The MSIE UA string has a dirty history itself. Opera merely behaves like this by default to trick lame sites. It's the best browser available, but it can't be "perfect" as the Web isn't perfect. It must do things like this to survive.

Why would I wanna use the "real" Opera string, when any log analyzer worthy being called one will detect it as Opera if I use the MSIE one (which is NOT identical to what MSIE produces), and when it'll block me from many sites with lame Web masters?

I think you should change it to "*Opera*". I even think they officially say that this is how you identify Opera on Opera's Web site.

Oh.. my.. god.

What was that about? This thread going waaay off-topic?

Kimmo, under what circumstances would you bother printing a page that tells you not to use IE?

I thought that we were talking in general.

What's on topic for this thread? I've read your massive first post but please summarize it a bit as I am confused.

In that case don't complain that a site detects Opera as MSIE.

There are also sites (more, I've heard - but they've never bothered me) that complain if you don't use MSIE. Deal with it.

Generally true, but in this case, I don't think it's something to get worked up about.

Makin' a gaming news portal with news and articles about the gaming industry. Looking for authors around the world who want to work in their free time when they feel like doing it (for free).

The work would include posting news when I'm asleep and writing articles (preferarly regularly). The only demands I have are that the people who want to join know how to write and know a thing or two about the videogaming world.

Isn't that what I just said myself?

So the authors will work as your slaves and all profit goes to you? Sounds attractive!

Do you see me carrying around bags with dollar signs on them? I'd LOVE to be able to pay authors, but this is simply not possible.

The real slave is me, though, who will be doing most of the work with contents anyway, and who codes the whole sh!t.

Surely not everyone who knows how to write and likes videogames will want to make their own site about it.

Funny thing is that I have not seen any useful site that requires the use of IE. Could you show me one where not using IE wouldn't allow me to use it (e.g for reading stuff).

During the last 2y I've only found one site: the msdn subscribers page where one can download their stuff. I cold browse it with FF but not download. I think because the site is made by MS it doesn't really count for much.

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Of course they don't, they just use some of the preexisting ones that everyone know already

Good luck getting into those teams.

Opera reports as "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.50" when set up as IE, so you could detect for Opera first and then MSIE second.

HoHo: my bank (Bank of America) checks for MSIE or Netscape/FireFox and blocks all others. Report as MSIE, then Opera works fine. They obviously have never heard of Opera, nor do they have a clue what their site even does.

... yet you refuse to do the very thing that would get you out of this. Marvellous.

I would expect this crap from many others, but from YOU?

sorry, I misunderstood.
I thought you meant who would create their own site to share their writings about gamedev with others.

Too bad then. By the name I would think its the biggest in US but I might be wrong. Anyway its quite stupid for them to do it but I think it takes quite a lot of persons to persuade them to allow using of other browsers.

Here in Estonia we have much better situation. My bank (SEB Estonia Unibank) has even especially crafted version for text based browsers and it is actually useable and looks nice.

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OR they could just follow Web standards. When you think in terms of "supporting browsers", you're "out taking a ride on the bicycle".

You have to support a set of browsers. You can't make your site work everywhere just by following standards. Maybe it would work out if you restricted yourself to very basic HTML, but anything more complex and you are going to run into differences, standard noncompliance and headaches.

Sigh.

Alright... I really don't feel like talking about this one more time. I've had this discussion five billion times, and it's totally off-topic to this thread.

You're suposed to get off-topic in here, actually, there's nothing on-topic here, except some dumb flame wars about browsers. Does it really matter which browser you're using?

Well, his website is up and running and doing good...

You do realize that we're inside a thread, right?

Umm, actually, Off-Topic ordeals is referring to the topic of Allegro. It's not suggesting that threads shouldn't follow concrete topics.

I'm not that stupid.
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I'm not sure if you guys realised this, but everyone that tried to help Kimmo in some way, except joining his writers team, just got flammed and told his job ain't good. That's what I'm refering to.

Felipe Maia: Sigh. What are you talking about? Are you one of those who like to say random things to piss of thread authors so that the thread becomes a flamewar instead of what it was intended to be?

Heh, I think you just proved his point. Again, he's right. You don't seem to like it when other people are right and their point is negative.

I understand, it was a point to my comment though. If people realize that this is your attempt to make money their enthusiasm to work for free will decrease.

If you create a site, I could possibly review Soldat as I think that it deserves the attention. My engagement would end there though.

Hmm... I have the feeling that certain people would get things better if they actually read the original post.

I have. And it still says "Work for me for free so I can make money off you".

Yeah, because I've said all along that I do it for charity. Of course.

..no you haven't.

...
That post makes no sense whatsoever.

"This sucks because of A."
"Well, did I ever say it was B!?"

I figured he was hit in the head or something.

Ever heard of sarcasm?

I spent hours checking domain names and finding out that ALL good ones are taken (once again), but I eventually came up with one: GamingVulture.com!

... it's a gaming... vulture. You know. The animal. If you think it's bad (which I don't), you should try finding a good .com with "game*" or "gaming*" that isn't taken and NOT EVEN USED.

(At least a bizarre mental picture helps for recognition. GoDaddy.com makes no sense for a domain registrar, for example.)

GoDaddy sounds like a porn-site; you'd probaly get lots of hits

Anywho - why all this whining about "YO BIG CAPITALIST MONSTER WHO WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF MY SWEAT AND TEARS!!!" :p

Grow up - do you actually think he could pay you for your infinite wisdom? Do you think he'll make that kind of profit? If you made a gaming-site, would you be able to pay reviewers? Hardly. Stop bitching, please.

I'm up for writing a review or two, but I think I'd concentrate on the 'retro' section - games that should be kept alive in the hearts of men

BTW (Kimmo): Since you have no budget (and thus can't send out review-copies of games) you'll of course have to take reviews of just the games your reviewers happen to have bought.

I have some wishes on the site, by the way!

-Have you noticed that it's almost impossible (nowadays) to figure out what the heck actually Happens in a game? The things they write about it are "superduper back story, graphic perfection in an amazing land of elves and faggots, with 30 different weapons and individual interaction!!" - WTF?? - how about telling me something about the game Mechanics in a raw fact-sheet on the side?!?

Like:

• View: Fixed camera? Third/first person view? In what situations?

• Saves: Anytime/special places/save tokens are collected

• Battle: Turn-based? Realtime? Damage system? Is battle a 'sub-game', or integrated into the normal play?

• Things You Do And How: Minipuzzles, different modes/central screens of the game: action,character customization, magic handling, map - with relevant screenshots

-If you know what I mean. These are all things that are Impossible to find out from most reviews, not to mention the box of the game. Thus I bought Legacy of Caine (or whatever) without knowing it had fixed cameras, which I abhor in an action game :p

It's not random, it's not to piss you off, it's just the truth. If you think I, and everyone else with "negativity" here is wrong, then prove us wrong, make your site, and make it good, and the prove us.

As a matter of fact I have. So I know that retorts have to make sense, sarcasm or no sarcasm.

If you don't read what I write, it probably doesn't make any sense, no.

Well... as mentioned in the original post, there wouldn't even be reviews on there at all. Perhaps a bad decision, but where would we get the games, other than warezing them? I only have an Xbox warezable, and it's soon "expired".

Hmm... if you're not going to have reviews on the site, what Are you going to have on it?

I don't see any problem with people just writing reviews of games they like - it's not your problem if they're warez or not. People Do buy a lot of games, too

Um... News and articles, as I've mentioned quite a few times now?

Well... yes. Maybe it can be expanded to hold reviews later.

(God damn TheRegister.com for stealing my favicon! )

And these articles will be about? How to master a game? Interviews with the authors? Such stuff?

You can't blame people for not comprehending your first post, it was quite massive and not that well written. What will the articles be about for example now that reviews are out of the question?

To write something about new hardware is also out of the question if it's not copied from another site.

Kimmo: So.... you're going to have Articles about warezed games instead of reviews of them?

Um...

It's not difficult to do. You have to do 3 things:

1) start it.
2) keep going.
3) understand that it will suck in the beginning.

Working hard...

Of course.

Contents-wise for sure.