I just pulled my first gaming all-nighter in quite some time. (I think the first and only other time when I forget to sleep over playing a game was years ago while playing CivI).

And I didn't even do something special. I just wasted time. Went fishing. Cooked the fish. Improved my tailoring a bit, sold the bags I created in the WoW's "Shopping Channel" while fishing some more... got some new skills, made an easy quest, walked around a bit, "collected" some more reagents for my tailoring and cooking skill, disenchanted my tailored stuff to raise my enchantment skills... stuff like that.

Played a bit hide and seek with underwater monsters 5-10 levels above me... improved my wand slinging, drank some dwarven ale with a stranger I had just helped to get out of a sticky situation...

So:

"Hello, my name is spellcaster and I am a WoW addict."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111oneoneone:(

I was thinking about doing an all-nighter last night, but I have off work today so I wanted to rest up for a all dayer & all nighter today. Probably 20 solid hours of play coming up on me. Time flies when you play that game.

I think I'm gonna be sick....

Now.. Where is the statistics for "dead" (as in, addicted to WoW) a.cc'ers?

Ahahahah! Join us and the Dark Iron Dwarves! (See, that's a World of Warcraft pun. Dark Iron Dwarves... Dark Side of the Force? Get it? )

Additional funny thing to know:
I got a mail from the "City of Heroes" operators today that gave me 2 more free days as an apology for a few lagging issues they had some weeks ago. And while there was some lag n CoH, it was never really disturbing.
The thing that made me stop playing CoH (and after that buying WoW) was simply that the level design (maps and textures) is boring and very repetive, and that their missions are boring. Extremly boring. And they seem to never change regardless of level. Combina boring missions with bad level design and some other issues ... and you have a game that is no fun after a couple of days.
And that's what I told them as well. Let's see if I get any response

This makes me think of scary movies.

"It steals souls... will YOURS be next?"

Dundundundunnn! Now I know I definitely am NOT playing WoW or ANY other MMORPGs. The evil! The terror!

If you don't want to be addicted: Play CoH

I've noticed some of this with WoW. But it's still fun.

You guys are scaring me. I think I'll just stick to Nethack for now.

NETHACK!!!!!:D:D:D:D:):):):)
GO NETHACK!:)

Even I am getting tired of the WoW threads now.

I'm getting tired of all the programming threads cluttering up the forum. Bah!

See attached... If I could just get the dates you were born and the date your soul became part of Blizzard I'll put dates on them as well

Yeah, I hate off-topic programming pffft!

Many of them were great posters.. Now they are gone. May their soul rest on the Blizzard cemetary server

Heh, that all nighter probably was a good idea as World of Warcraft went down for eight hours this morning for maintenance. It should've been back up since an hour ago, so I'm off.

Man.. that game scares me shitless - I'll never even dare to look at it!

Bought Vampire: Bloodlines the other day - hope it's not that addictive..

That's the first time I hear people say that they don't want the best game there is on the market today
And it doesn't even require top-notch hardware to run and look good...

I'm staying away from it... it has symptoms much like crack/cocaine.

They fear its awesome power. They are too weak to handle it! They are educated stupid and do not understand the truth of nature's harmonic simultaneous four-day World of Warcraft gaming session!

Go away you hippies!

They were one hour late with finishing their maintenance and now I can't login. I want my money back. Just kidding, Blizzard owns enough of my soul already to make me not complain earnestly.

X-G: TimeCube worshipper! TimeCube worshipper!!

..I saw the best minds of my generation, laid to waste by furry-wannabe orcs and elves

Does anybody know where the house of the "crazy cat lady" is? I was in there once (back then I didn't have the money to buy a cat) and I wasn't able to find in this morning.
Speaking of pets: Will they survice my death? I'm a warlock and I die pretty often

As I understand it, warlocks don't care if their minions live or die. If they live, great. If they die, summon another one. It's not like a hunter, who actually has to bond with his pet, keep it happy, earn its loyalty, etc. But then, my warlock is only level 8, so what do I know?

I bought Soul Calibur 2 for GC on Saturday because I saw it for 30 bucks and couldn't pass it up. I might even play it sometime ...

Well, if I were playing World of Warcraft, I'd post here rather than on Blizzard's forum. At least the US forums seem to be filled with people who don't get much further than `omfg blizz u sux l0l. This game is pathetic l0l. There's so many bugz its not funny, u need to fix them or u will lose all players who pay u money for updatez. WHERE ARE OUR MONTHLY UPDATES!!! Why is [insert server name] down every five minutez? Why don't u spend our money to make teh game good like EQ2?' and smilar dribble.

That said, I think you should all kill mEmO's bandwith over at ACC online gaming rather than Matthew's... that way there will be no more complaining by people who don't want to read about WoW, and I can still read about it

Sure. My demons can die. I'll even sacrifice them for my protection. But a cat is nothing I'd conjure, it's something I buy for an impressive price (for low level chars that is).

spellcaster: the crazy cat lady is located right outside the nortshire abbey area. when heading towards goldshire it should be on your right.
when you die you summon the cat from the pet box you buy.

Pets like cats aren't even involved in battle. They don't fight, and they don't die. They just fade away when you die, and you resummon them as usual.

Funny story. I'm in my high 20's, doing my business in Raven Hill Cemetary in Duskwood. Lots of players running around that night, and I end up partnered with two others, one of who is a Gnome Warlock (forget the other guy; I think he was a Paladin. Anyway).

Anyone who hangs out in Raven Hill knows a powerful (for my level) Elite wanders around there named Mor'Ladim. When I first hooked up with these two, the Elite had wandered too close to them and the little Gnome had to sacrifice her Voidwalker so we could book out of there. A few minutes later, while we're searching for a tomb entrance, we run into him yet again! Once again, we leave the Voidwalker to die so we can run. She's just sitting on the lawn crying (who says Warlocks don't care?) and I'm making light fun of her because she can't keep her minions alive. As she summons a new Voidwalker, she promises she'll take care of this one. I mean, what are the odds we'll run into him again, right? Right?

Oy. We find the tomb, we do our business there (very quick quest) we leave, and who's waiting for us right outside? Man, what did Voidwalkers ever do to this guy? We're done the quest, so we don't even take off in the same directions; we leave the Voidwalker to die (third one), I'm laughing my butt off, the Gnome is crying "Noooooo!" as she runs for her life. It was not a good ten minutes for her.

And it's a good thing, because some people pay upwards of 35g for them. I bought my mount with money earned from farming black whelp pets in the Badlands. I have a pet owl; seems fitting for a Druid. I gave a spare whelp to my mage; she looks good with it. A 60 Rogue in my guild has a Worg Pup pet, which drops in one of the high-level instances. Apparently this thing can make a show of attacking and dying; she's seen it nip at opponents in duels. Does no damage, but looks neat.

On fishing: I need to up my skill there. Neglected it for quite some time. My Herbalism, Alchemy, and First Aid are all 300 though. Cooking is about 200. Fishing is about ... 50?

WTF is a voidwalker??

http://members.gamedev.net/23yrold3yrold/WOWpics/voidwalker1.jpg

The one on the right. Gnome warlocks are funny, because they're generally smaller than what they can summon.

Other summoned minions are imp, succubus, and felhound (obvious Zergling spoof ). There's a couple other high-level ones (Doomguard?), but warlocks are not a class I'm terribly familiar with ...

I got my pet when I ran Deadmines. Was dropped. I coulda had two, but at the time I didn't know what it was and my bags were full so I didn't grab the first one. I got the second drop though, which was a bird. Kinda lame, but whatever.

It is incredibly how every thread with an 'WoW' in it can turn into nonsense WoW talk::)

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You know the guy there... he's a WoW player... WoW made him kill that baby... don't end up like him!

I'm sure it's a great game, but when it's addictive to the point that people devote all their free time to it then there's no way I'll dare play it.

Chris's game is gathering dust, MeMo's vanished into unknown depths, Spellcaster will soon be too tired to cast any spells and it seems that I'll never see any more games from X-G like I was hoping for.

Blizzard have a lot to answer for.

In US you can sue people for anything.. Why dont we sue Blizzard for making addictive games that can make people sit in front of the computer so long that they die:o

... or kill babies... BABY KILLERS!!!

I still do plenty. I'm still in church ministry, I've spent some time hanging out with guys I've met at work, etc. I'm not even playing today; no time. Plus that other job starting in a few months (yay!) My reformat also had something to do with lack of TMS production; while I've reinstalled the easy stuff like Blender, I have no enthusiasm for reinstalling all my compilers, IDE's, editors, libraries, etc. All of which was a pretty big headache in the first place and my motivation to go through it all again is a bit low. And I'll get bored of WoW in not terribly long; I'm just kind of grinding to 60. I've seen most of what the game has to offer now, so it's not like I'll be playing forever. Didn't see anyone complaining when I went on my Starcraft hiatus. On the contrary; plenty of you keep whining I don't play it anymore.

Anyway, I gotta run. See ya.

Now now now... Starcraft was a once a week ordeal, only on Sunday morning and it lasted only a few hours... not this stay up for three days in a row schizophrenia.

There's also a sacrifice spell that sacrifices your minion and grants you a shield for N seconds.

And gnomes are fun... well, just because they are gnomes
Gnomes rule. In the "don't step on me" way of ruling

GNOMERCY!!1

Remember when I first got it?

So... was it addictive?
I personally found it very nice, regardless of its bugs.

On topic: Why don't we do a massive DOS to all WOW servers? We must act above the law if we want to save our fellow a.ccers

As if they don't go down enough as it is I don't think that's a very good idea anyway.. you ever watch Dawn of the Dead? Well that's what's gonna happen if you p*ss off a bunch of WoW addicted corpses.

Radagar...

Born 06/15/1981.

Soul Claimed by Wow in Beta 4, November 8, 2004

Hmm... sounds like an interesting game afterall. Maybe I should reconsider buying it...

Evert: Dont let the WoWon take you:'(

I thought your argument was that you wouldn't have enough time to play it to justify the monthly charge (which is a damn good reason not to play it) ...

I know I won't spend enough time playing it to justify the money it would cost me. Not having Windows installed is also a reason not to get the game (and although I'll probably install Windows again at some point, I won't start using it regularly anyway).
Things might be different if there was a Linux client, but World of Warcraft is and will remain the only Blizzard game I don't own.

I was just hoping to pull Steve's leg a bit.

My opinion, you don't need to play much per month to get your money's worth. I think its very cheap actually for entertainment/cost ratio. Gone to the movies lately? That is almost half a month worth of WoW time.

Raist... I got an empty tombstone with your name on it... so watch it buddy.

Evert, don't scare us like that.
Who would be the front figure of Allegro development if you dissapeared?
You're the one who thanks people for contributions, announce when progress has been made, gives sensible comments about feature disscussions.
Allegro's future would be uncertain without you.

Did my first instance today with Morrog (guild member). Wow. I couldn't believe it. It was long. I was only lvl 17, pretty useless. Thank god we have 2 level 30ish people. I like being a warrior, but the bad thing is I have such high arrgo that I'm like a magnet.

He's in our guild. Gnome Mage.

Good; that's the general idea. Would you prefer they hit your priest? Stay in defensive stance, count on your teammates to keep you healthy, and do your job by drawing the enemies attention from the more easily killed classes. Tank for the win.

Late to the thread; but on the topic of WoW: has anyone hit 60 yet? The highest I've hit so far is 42. But then again, it goes to mention that I have multiple characters at levels such as the one I just mentioned at 42, one at 36, another at 27, etc, etc. Maybe if I dedicated all my time I'd be up and ready for when they open up the battlegrounds?

Even so, I've considered cancelling my account a few times. I never actually got around to doing it though. Pretty awesome, when I reviewed my account information: Blizzard has given me a whole free week of play due to server issues at launch time. Go Blizzard!

Hmm, funny sentence...

I'd rather play Second Life. Free trial time, one time only fee to play unlimitedly, an optional monthly fee for extra features. You can even trade in your game money for real money, which you could use to pay off the monthly fee. I heard of someone that racked up a couple thousand USD worth in game money, if he decided to trade it in.

I'll be 58 tomorrow. Gimme another week at most.

Another funny sentence, if you read "wand" as "wang".

You mean rogue.

I'm liking WoW a lot and also play EQ2. I'm going to have no RL at all with these two games.

I became 16 yesterday. Got some new spells. And then we decided to walk from Ironforge to Menthil Harbour (which means we had to go throw areas with monster around 4-12 levels higher than us). I actually amde it without getting killed and then we went fishing at the harbour
I hope to sell the fished in IF for quite some money today. I also got some nice magic stuff which means eithr my disenchanter skill (for stuff I didn't want tp sell) or my money bag (for stuff sold) were increaed.

Speaking of selling stuff: what is an orb (off hand equip) with +4 int worth? I sold it for 15silver and the guy said "yes" way to quickly

And all that in zombie mode... at the end I actually had problems with fishing because I was that tired. I even clicked the wrong mouse button from time to time
I couldn't read the chat log anymore without really concentrating on it... and I won't event tell you how slow my typing was. So I decided to go to bed pretty early (3:00 in the morning).

I love that game

Get some sleep..

I don't even want to know how many hours you've played.

Spellcaster, what server do you play on?

WoW in widescreen is pretty nice, btw.

I play on "Lothar".

Too bad, I play on Proudmoore.

Well, you could check the auction house for typical prices, but they often are ridiculous. I bought a stack of light leather the other day and paid 5 silver. The auctions didn't even start that lowly -- if I wanted to get it immediately, I'd have had to pay 1 gold or more. For 10 pieces of cheap leather.

Oh, I always thought you are older than that

I seond that. At least get 4.2.0 out before buying WoW

D'oh! I could've sworn I read "Mage" ...

That's pretty fair, I'd say.

Which European server currently has the most allegro people on it? My brother and I will each be getting a European copy of WoW soon and I may as well have a reason to choose a particular server.

Anyone on Lothar apart from Spelly?

You wouldn't want to go on Lothar xecause they speak German there.

Shadow Moon is where you want to be. If you play Alliance, you can be in our guild!

No James, turn to the US side of the Shadowmoon!

Oh, and an orb held in off-hand? I'd say that's worthless, but what do I know? Well, I know I could put a lot better things in my other hand. Like my neat shield I got from Gnomeregan that has a 5% chance of dealing extra damage to my enemy every time I'm struck. Not to mention better stats than my last shield.

Not all classes use shields.

I'm sure they could use other more useful things though. I've had other off-hand items that have cool tricks like dropping the enemy's armor.

Yeah. I considered starting a 2nd char just to get access to skinning
My tailor dosn't need leather often, but I think it's pretty pointless to pay high prices for wool or leather.
When I got the pattern to do 8 slot bags I considered buying wool (because I wasn't high level enough to win against the lvl 18+ humanoids that normally drop wool). But the prices are just plain crazy. I would pay more for the wool than I would get for the finished bag.

I'm actually wondering why people buy stuff there.

I started as a skinner/leatherer, but I found the stuff I could build not interesting enough to pursue the skills. So I changed to mining and engineering at level 18 or so. I got my skills much higher than before in much shorter time.

The problem with an alt for skinning is that you probably need pretty heavy leather and to be able to get that stuff you need a quite high skill and kill quite high level mobs. So you will have to invest a lot of time -- most of the time it's less of a pain to ask friends or guild mates and wait.

Oh and the 5 silver were quite reasonable compared to the auction house.

I would disagree a tad Mars. If your alt is something you like to play, like another class you enjoy, then there's no problem. You'll play both chars 50% of the time each, get both to high levels, and thus use all your material skills.
At least that's what I'm hoping to do when I make my alt Druid.

I don't understand how anyone could have 2 characters. I mean I'm overwhelmed with the amount of things to do with 1 character. I mean wow. This game blows my mind on how big it is.

Yeah, it does that initially. But eventually you get bored of your class and you want to try it from another race/class perspective. All the high-levels in my guild have low level alts.

vomits

My Priest is 3000 XP less of level 21. I like it, but I can't decide whether to go Shadow or Holy. Holy gets me no argo, Shadow gets me thems l33ts h2x4r sp3llz.

Technically speaking, you don't have to kill it to skin it. As long as someone else does. My Priest could skin anything he got near, though, and I never had any problem killing stuff.

Though, I have no real use for the skins, as I don't have leatherworking. I have tailoring, which uses skins occasionally.

I think my two biggest problems with WoW are that there aren't any discounts for multiple accounts (in the same house, say, for a family), and that you can't move characters between realms. The name taken argument doesn't really have any real value, because you could simply change your name. If they don't want people switching back of forth, make it so they can't. Once or twice a year is more than enough for most people.

I'll need to try that emote...

I've already got a level 40 mage on US Shadowmoon who will shortly be donating his wares to a resonsible allegro player ...not that I've got an awful lot but I'm sure anyone saving for a mount will appreciate my 30 gold.

Hmmm, I think it'll have to be Shadowmoon then. XG: What are the general policies of your guild and how large is it?

IotD.

This is also very amusing. Haha indeed.

26,000 damage??
Oh, and I could use 30g But I'm sure all Allegro players could.

Asheron's Call 2 is pretty damn good....And theyre coming out with an expansion in a month or so...

This is what did that, btw. I like that dude down there with his pretty enchanted sword; looks like he's offering to do her nails.

I have a almost level 4 Fighter! Next fight I'm sure to level up! Though thats not till next weekend, or the one after.

That is one big scary dragon... is there any normal way to survive that amount of damage?

I just love dragons in AD&D... can do up to 24d12+24 or so points of damage (depending on age, but if you have a dragon I think it should be big, old and mean), and you can save for half - meaning that out of all the players in the current group, one or two have a slight chance to survive if I roll 24 ones.

Urge to play WoW rising... ...deep breaths... urge quelled.

Isn't Onyxia the one that nobody managed to kill yet? Or has there been a successful party?

Ah, apparently a Korean guild managed to do it in january: http://www.h-anime.net/onykill.jpg

Don't you love( ha) koreans.

Get rid of the '[/url' in that link - at the moment it gives me a load of manga p0rn.

Sorry.

And you suppose that wasn't his intent?

Oh noes it got Thomas Fjellstom too ... who's next Bruce Perry??? Bob??? Gasp Matthew Leverton... we're all doomed!

errr...

I feel faint...

PS: If you're on SM, come to the war. Southshore vs. Tarren Mill; whoever controls the tower in between at 4:30PM server time wins. I'll take some screenies if the lag lets me.

A time will come, Steve, where we realize that the world around you is not what it seems to be and that the World of Warcraft is the place to be.

As someone said, you will all be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

23: I was on late last night (up to 3AM server time) and there was some fighting around Tarren Mill as best I could tell. Has it gone to a full scale war now?
I actually never got ganked that night, which is suprising considering the amount of Horde there, and the high levels. I guess most of the Horde were goofing off. I ran from Southshore to the east to do a quest at some farm. Did that for a bit, killed a mob walking down the road for the quest, and then walked back. Never got ganked during the whole thing. Odd, indeed. I even ran past some horde. Guess I'm just one sneaky ninja

Oh and 5 more levels til mount quest for me! yay!

Heh, I would play WoW, with one small problem: I'm unemployed. Call me stupid, but I can't justify spending money on a "game" on a monthly basis if I'm not going to be earning money to replace my entertainment spending. Besides, it lets me focus on my homework.

As for the rest of ya, don't lose your soul to the beast!

Read my post a little closer

Going back to entertainment/cost, what is everyone's /played? Mine is 3 days and 2 hours. Started playing last Saturday, so yeah I'm getting my money's worth.

3 days, 6 hours

Planned event for about a week now. Wanted to do some nice big PvP battles. Let me get these screenshots up ...

I wonder if WoW players would voluntarily hook themselves up to a server and live in a virtual-reality WoW (like the Matrix)?

Do you really have any doubts about that?

Does somebody want to make the "everybody would become a female gnome" joke?

I don't feel like uploading everything, so just click the naked Orc for a decent shot outside the tower.

http://members.gamedev.net/23yrold3yrold/WOWpics/KOTHnakedporcthumb.png

And what UI mod are you using? It's Cosmos isn't it? I don't remember Cosmos looking like that...

A friend just told me that he wanted to pick the flowers on his way to the ATC

And I spent 3hours fishing, with a meager outcome of 3gold

Carrus85: If you're unemployed you might be able to make a living by crafting stuff in WoW and selling them? -I don't know - just heard that there are people who do stuff like that in EQ.. or at least hired a bunch of mexicans to do it

It wouldn't surprise me if there's a whole industry of Chinese WoW farmers. I can just see it, hordes of young children taken from their homes and forced into poverty stricken factories where they are put to the most mind numbing work imaginable: playing WoW 24/7. Come to think of it they'd probably also only have the bare minimum of computers. No sound, 10" CRT and uncomfortable chairs. poor kids

I hear they're selling gold on ebay.

hey.. that's not a bad idea... set up a bunch of WoW farms in China! I'll strike it rich!!!!

I think that whole situation is incredibly absurd - you can actually get Paid to Pretend to make a Pretend-item

It's called a "service". People selling stuff like this on ebay save you the time to find that item yourself. While gold is a pretty simple item to be traded (since you can acquire it in a couple of ways) finding a very specific item will require a lot of time - if you ever find it.

It's like paying somebody to do something for you. Like asking somebody to observe your children. You can do it yourself but maybe you'd like to spend your time doing something else?

The thing is that it's a figmentary service that could just as well be accomplished by the setting of a variable.

If I've understood it correctly it works something like this: You go to some place where there is a smithy and select the "Make Sword Lvl I" option, and then you click your mouse around to pretend you are making a sword, until such time as the program decides that the sword is finished (depending on your skill-stats, etc.)

What happens is that your inventory gets one more "Sword Lvl I" in it, that you have been pretending to make, but you have not actually Made anything - the programmers willing, you could just as well just press the swordmaking button and get as many swords as you like. Your "swordmaking" was never really required, but just a way for you to play that you were making a sword

What I mean is that makes the 'sword' in question just about the most ephemeral 'product' in existence - although I do understand that people will sometimes want to buy them, if they don't feel like pretending to make a sword themselves

Um yeah.
But that's like saying you go to an ATC and click the "Gimme 50bucks" button. While it works like this, it's not really that easy.

You have to invest time to get the items. Say you want to create a special magic item. That item might require Wool, lether, Magic Dust and a couple of other ingredients. While you might get the base materials for wool, you cannot make it into usable wool unless you're tailor. If you're not a leatherer, you won't get any leather. Unless you you're skilled leatherer you won't get heavy leather.
Unless you're an entchanter you can't disentchant items into magical components (which destroys the original item BTW, so it's a pretty costly process) and even then you'll first need to find that magic item.

In other words: Even if you invest a lot of your time harvesting for items, you might not even be able to get the base materials.
And if you have the materials you'll have to find somebody to create the final product - and he'll normally charge you for that, so you'll have to invest time making money.
And while the items might not be real, the time invested is real. And as we all know, time is money.

EDIT: it's kinda like buying software. All you need to create software is other software, skill and time. And yet some people actually buy software.

Many people pay to get a registeration number for a program - even if all it does is to set the "registered" -flag.

However, I can't understand how someone would spend hours "making a sword". Especially as I know how games work...

't Is called role-playing.

You'd spend hours getting the materials, not making the sword.
If you can make the sword at all. Since that would require that you have the right job and the right skill in it.

EDIT:
I'll walk down from Stormwind to Booty Bay today. I want to get a Parrot pet and that fishing book. I think I'll actually buy more than one pet and more than one book. Let's see how well they sell in IF

Walking down to BB at my pretty low level could become quite an adventure ... heh.

The safe way is to swim there.

Run. And get the flight point before you're ganked five times.

It's Cosmos. A few components of it, anyway.

And they all have 'twx' in their names ...

And paying for services in game isn't that confusing. It would save you hours of work earning items yourself. I don't do it, but I don't see how it's "absurd" ...

Time is money. If you have money, but no time, (or vice-versa) it makes sense to convert it into another form.

I was in the Stone Talon Mountains and Sun Rock got raided by at least 27 (!) (L50+) people. But I got the last laugh because I picked off a level 16 when they weren't looking (I was 20 or so).

p.s. I really like it when a high level alliance just passes me by with no more than a wave. It makes me want to do the same when I see someone else in the same situation.

Problem is you can't sell WoW items or money. It's against Blizzard's policies. So...good luck with that.

Yeah... goodluck with that.

It's not impossible just because it's forbidden, but if you're caught they can ban you from the game.