Allegro 5 released!
Bob

The move from 4.0 to 5.0 went quicker than expected, so I'm happy to anounce the release of Allegro 5.0!

What's new:
- New API
- Multiscreen/Multiwindow support
- DirectX 9 drivers
- Video playback and encoding
- Merge of FBlend, AllegroGL, DUMB, JGMOD, libnet, GNE, ppcol, AllegroMP3, AllegPeg and PMask.
- Speech synthesis/recognition
- Removed duplicate API entries (no more masked_blit nor draw_sprite or equivalent)
- DOS port was removed due to lack of support for new DirectX 9 drivers
- 4D graphics
- Ports to the X-Box and GameCube.
- PHP support
- Hardware accelerated mind control
- We're better than SDL now.
- New distribution format. To save space, we're using LZip compression. zip and tar.gz formats should follow shortly.

You can download it right here:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/alleg/all50.lzip

Edit: posted new feature list.

23yrold3yrold

How well does the X-Box port work? Did Shawn contribute to this or something. :o

No DOS support is a bummer though... :'(

For some reason this new compression type doesn't work for me! >:( Will someone please release a zip version too? :-/

Bob

Yeah, Shawn dropped by and merged in his X-Box port that he was building the whole time.

About the compression, we know of some issues with the decompression program. Hopefully those will be resolved soon so we can fully use LZip.

X-G

Chris: You're not extracting it properly. You need to use Kazaa, or else it'll conflict with c:\pr0n and BonziBuddy. There was a feedback doc in this somewhere, but I lost it.

23yrold3yrold

My pr0n folder is on my drive D (my C drive is too small...) Does this matter? ???

But I want Bonzi, because that is going to be my next avator. Good guess , btw. ;)

X-G

Chris: Well, DUH. There's no 'D' in Allegro, of COURSE it won't work. And Bonzi is already too hairy to get a beard. God, he looks like the offspring of Chewbacca and the teletubbies on speed.

Bob

This is confusing. I was using mIRC to create the archive...

MindCode

I thought it wasn't done till the summer? But that's cool! Is Shawn breaking contract by making an x-box port?

I can't get lzip to work. Can someone explain it to me.

sicgamemaker

lzip stole my idea! but my lossy compression works better, you just have to know how to use it Chris. ::)

its a cool concept and i glad to see allegro supports it now.

X-G

Chris: Hm. If IRC, there was a bug in Pr0nloader that made it download teletubby pr0n all the time, thus effectively breaking down Bonzi.

spellcaster

The new version is quite cool.
I'm using a multi node quicktime as the menu for my current game right now, which is pretty cool, since you can now script your menus...

There seems to be a problem with the sound after using al_video_play_overlay(). After playing a short MPEG, I get some strange distortions with in game audio.

But this is just nitpicking. It's great work, and the project converter works like a breeze. After some small manual code adjustments, everything worked like a charm.
It's cool that FLI/FLCs are auto converted to MPEG2 if lame is installed.

The speech API seems not to work correctly. Do I have to install some other packages first?

4d gfx.. hm. While I think it's a cool name, it's a bit misleading. If I understand it correctly it's "just" a bone system which allows for time based modifiers. (Not sure here, I just run the demo...)

Nice work.

Bob

Well, for 4d graphics, you tend to lose a lot of the effect, since you're projecting them back into a 2D display. However, with the advent of 3D displays, 4D graphics technology will be developing. Since Allegro already supports 4D graphics, this makes it the library of choice for developing the first and best 4D games.

the_y_man

I dont have linux! Im running windowze, so can somebody actually make a zip file for me? Is this file an update from 4.01 to 5? If not, lzip must be hell of a compression algorithm!

MindCode

Just me? or the instructions for lzip a little lacking. Someone, for THE LOVE OF GOD give me a little help here.

Either that or give me a zip. (I've had an allegro craving since the api proposal, and It must be filled!)

P.S. i hope this aint an april fools joke.

the_y_man

This better not be a joke, im getting really desperate to try the new allegro! SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE A ZIP VERSION OF IT!!!!!

DanTheKat

What EXACTLY is 4D? Width, Height, Depth... What else IS there!?

Looking at previous posts I don't see that this can be April foos.

Bob

I was sure the instructions for un-lzipping were in the LZip FAQ.

23yrold3yrold

I never got it to work... I even burnned a lot of my transformers pr0n to a cd-rom. :'(

spellcaster

The zipped version is rather larger. Why don't you use lzip? I simply used a single disk linux distro which I have just for exacty this purpose (running cool linux proggies).

But I think a win version of lzip is in the works.

EDIT: Dan, the 4th dimension is time. From what I've seen in the demos, it allows you to specify the modification of a model over a given time.

Bob

spellcaster: No, it's actually a fourth spacial dimention. The 4D mesh is then projected back to a 3D space, which is then projected to a 2D screen. With 3D displays, we can skip that last step and get to see all the cool stuff that 4D can bring.
I do admit that Allegro currently fakes the fourth dimention by introducing space-time relativity in the transformation equations. We think that this would better model the back-projection from 4D to 2D. Of course, there is an optional switch to revert to regular "linear" transforms, for 3D displays.

23yrold3yrold: Oh please. It's not because you were unable to unzip Allegro 5 that it doesn't exist. The fact that it was released on April 1 is purely coincidental.

CGamesPlay

That PHP support should make Synapse Jumps happy ::)

Anycase, good jaerb, looking forward to it :)

Mark Oates

nice job on the lzip faq.

Thomas Fjellstrom

I love this thread. ;D

X-G

Someone's being very lazy this year ...

gillius

I can't believe this thread is 2 years old today. That means Allegro 5 is two years old now!

When is Allegro 6.0 due out?

Mark Oates

What if I lick a rabbit and accidently digest a hair? ??? Does that void the lzip liscence agreement? I doublt the non-licking clause would hold up in court.

Steve Terry

When is NAS GUI going to be integrated into A5... think about it ... mind controlled widgets :o

Inphernic
Quote:

I doublt the non-licking clause would hold up in court.

cough*Cochrane*cough.

hazul

sad.. i didn't even get this until i looked at the first post for 20 seconds.. :D
By seeing "lzip" that is.

Richard Phipps

[sarcasm]I really didn't expect this thread to reappear![/sarcasm]

Marcello

Looks like moderator power abuse to me...hrm hrm.

Marcello

Oscar Giner

Happy birthday, 'Allegro 5 released!' thread :D

CGamesPlay

2nd one, even :)
Phipps: Were you in #allegro?

Elias
Gillius said:

When is Allegro 6.0 due out?

Heh, I think Allegro 5.0 will still be good as april fools joke in 10 years or so, no need for 6.0 until then :)

Richard Phipps

No CGamessPlay. Not been in it for months.. Why do you ask?

Carrus85

The sad part is that a year later, this thread could still appear as sarcasm...

CGamesPlay

Phipps: Because I wouldn't have expected a 2 year old thread to come back to life just for its birthday. I would have expected a new thread. But Bob forgot about it, it seems.

Richard Phipps

Ahh.. I wasn't very clear. I meant an Allegro 5 announcement. Not this specific thread.. :)

CGamesPlay

Yeah, it went something like

<CGames> it's april fool's?

<CGames> where's the allegro 5 thread?

and then later I asked Bob to make one :)
Naturally, the above quote was never actually said, as my logs only go up 5000 lines or so, and I don't have what I did say :P

Evert

Interesting to see who posted in this thread two years ago and are still around now...

Maybe we should drag it g
from its grave every year and see who wants to post again ;)

23yrold3yrold

I hate this thread.

Bob

Aww ;D

23yrold3yrold

Cute jokes around the Internet though. Anyone visit Maddox? Or Homestar Runner? Or VGCats? ;)

gnolam

Whoa. 2002. That's like... years ago ;)

dudaskank

wow... 2 years... and I remember this thread too...

^__^

X-G

Hey, I posted in it. ;)

... I feel old.

Trezker
Date of first post said:

Posted on 2002-04-02 00:31

Ă„hum, not april first, second :)
Nice, very nice.
But I really think 4D should be left out completely in until 3D displays are available for us mortals. Make an addon instead :)

Kanzure

:( sniff I believed this thread!

Marcello

j00 are so wrong, it says "Posted on 04-01-2002 3:31 PM"

Marcello

Thomas Fjellstrom
Quote:

Posted on 01-04-2002 3:31 PM

Yup. thats what it says.

X-G

Quote:

Posted on 2002-04-02 00:31

Marcello

Haha, you people live in the wrong timezone. ::)

Marcello

MiquelFire

Can we not be this lazy next year? I was hoping for something new. :(

Oscar Giner
Quote:

Posted on 02-04-2002 00:31

:P
Anyway, there's no 1st April fool day here. (We have 28th december for this).

I read this thread, and believed it. But I wasn't registered yet here by that time.

Marcello
Quote:

I read this thread, and believed it. But I wasn't registered yet here by that time.

Quote:

Oscar Giner
Member# 2,207
April 2002

Heh.

CGamesPlay

I've read this and the other one from http://alleg.sf.net/humor.html :)

Oscar Giner

Marcello:

my profile said:

Member since: 12-04-2002

Yes, I'm here almost as much time as this thread :o

23yrold3yrold

Considering the most well-known gag concerning Allegro 5.0's feature list, may I propose a new mascot?

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Richard Phipps

What's that thing supposed to be?

X-G

BURN THE HEATHEN!!

... it's a Dark Archon. From Brood War.

23yrold3yrold

Dark Archon.
Note the last ability. ;) I only mention it because we're still on a Starcraft kick. :)

Richard Phipps

Isn't Starcraft like old.. like out of fashion? ;)

23yrold3yrold

Starcraft II!!1 ;)

Old != bad. It's still got a strong following.
And now, Allegro 5.0 release party! ;)

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Richard Phipps

Looks like a load of Poppies to me.

Anyway these dark archon's sound like a dark elder warhammer rip off. :D

Evert

23: That's just scary... looks like you could turn the tide against one of Korval's Zerling hoards. :P (Just kidding, you can't micro fast enough to do that).

One of these team games I want to actually try and mindcontrol a drone or SCV... You have a 600 unit cap and can build some nice combos of different unit types.

23yrold3yrold

I keep forgetting to try that. But then, Random has never blessed me with Protoss. ;) And you might run low on resources climbing the tech tree for more than one race if you aren't on an unlimited resource map.

And I keep forgetting to have my Queens infest Command Centers. I guess I'm a little too destruction-happy with my Guardians. ;)

X-G

"Random is the best race." -- Robert Tiinus

23yrold3yrold

Random doesn't last long for smart players who scout fast (which is most of the Allegro crowd). Next time I take Random, I'm going to ask the nearest partner to cover my choke point so no one can find me for as long as possible. :)

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