Horrible, I'm watching the news right now.

See, this is what happens when governments restrict free speech.

When the world is under Muslim control, obviously. I have not been following too closely though. Has it been confirmed that the incident is Muslim related?

Bob: it has already been claimed. One tell that EI has claimed it.

And this morning it's terrible. At least 120 dead and 200 injured.

It's terrible.

Some put candles for the dead.
I'm not a believer, but, heh. I put candles.
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EDIT: By the way I heard what Obama said. Nice words.

For example: http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/11/14/Arab-states-denounce-Paris-attacks-as-violation-of-human-values-.html

I don't think you'll find any Muslim leader (except from terror organizations) who did not immediately condemn it.

Then it must be the Finnish news which focus only on what the Western leaders have to say about the attack.

It takes real bravery for high profile figures to denounce such savagery while living in or adjacent to terror-sponsoring countries.

Yeah. Plus we should not forgive that currently, while we talk, some are still enduring that in Syria i.e

We could easily control it, if we weren't so wussified. Vietnam could have been won in a couple of months if we'd put everyone on line and criss-crossed it, there weren't that many tunnels to hide in.

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I read a few days ago that Russia was going in and mopping up more ISIS bases with bombers in a couple of days than we'd been doing over several months. A couple days later, I read that the US was sending in F-15's, which are mostly dogfighters, not ground attack planes like the A-10 Warthog, as if we were going to discourage the Russians. In other words, we didn't want Russia to end our protracted battle that makes the congressional-industrial-military complex rich.

I don't think war is as simple as you make it out to be. If the enemy has a tactical advantage (i.e. being used to hiding/surviving in the jungle) you can't just expect to come in and flush them out, especially with some drafted punk raw recruit.

When the U.S. was at war with Japan, they bombed some of the islands into oblivion, yet it did almost nothing to weaken the Japanese defenses. Bombs don't kill people as easily when they have cover.

Sure you could just put more men and resources to the task... But when is it enough? How many lives can you afford to spend? How much material wasted? For what objective? And even if you do win and occupy the country, does the populace actually support you? Will they put up heavy resistance? And that's without taking into the consideration the home front... Does your population support the war? Is there significant backlash? Will you lose the election because of it? etc. etc.

And about Russia and bombing of the country that I will not name. What will bombing bring? Sure it sounds like a good idea, what else is there? But it will inevitably cause more innocents to die, more refugees, more radicalization among the people. Easy for you to put up with all of this. You have an entire ocean that seperates you from this mess.

It's Europe and the Middle East that has to clean up the mess the U.S. has created. Let's not forget who funded these so called "terrorists" just a few years ago.

^ This. Bombs don't stop terrorists. If you haven't noticed they strap them to their own fucking chest! It reminds me of a Slim Shady lyric... Are you fucking kidding me?

It's bad that France and Russia are participating in this. This spells very bad things for the planet. You think they're going to end terrorism with war? Did the events since 2001 September 11 not teach you anything? You cannot end terrorism with terrorism. And if you think Western nations using advanced technology to repeatedly bombard rebels in foreign lands is not terrorism then you haven't considered the lives of the local civilian populations. We cannot even fathom the conditions these people live their entire lives in. And when the documents leak it turns out our own governments end up having a hand in causing all of that suffering. For shame.

Recent events have me furious, but it's not the actions of Muslim extremists that are pissing me off. It's the ignorant, short-sighted, or deceptive actions of Western governments and the ignorant sheeple of a populace cheering them on. Continuing to wage war isn't going to fix this. Probably the only thing that could ever resolve it is an apology from multiple sides, centuries worth of support and aid, and a whole lot of tolerance during the transition.

It's probably not going to happen. This is probably the beginning of the end... In any case, I imagine we'll survive another few decades before the West falls and/or we vaporize the Earth. That doesn't mean we won't start to experience some real suffering of our own (we haven't seen anything yet). I wonder if that's so unjust.