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thought you guys might be into this |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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The Allegro Virutal 80's Console |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Hey! I coincidentally had (more or less) that exact same idea here ages ago. But I said 'how about once of knocks up a library which limits the display and sound to some similar to an old computer or console, and additionally we set a speed target, either by saying 'must run on a 486SX/25 or whatever, or by use of the RDTSC instruction and limit ourself to PC platforms'. And people were interested. But obviously nothing became of the mild idea! And thankfully I wasn't so blinkered as to try and make us all 'do the american thing' and think of all old hardware as being as badly designed as the NES. [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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heh, badly designed, yes. Full of retro nostolgia? you betcha. And this lib's almost done... |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Its only retro nostalgia if you've ever actually played on one. Otherwise you'd just be suffering false memory syndrome, often known nowadays to anyone in the UK as 'I love the false memory syndrome'. Remember that Nintendo never distributed the NES themselves in Europe, relying upon various small and dodgy companies with often very limited advertising budgets in the different European countries. Add that to the fact that it apparently was never that great a seller in Japan and you have two of the three major markets suddenly without any great feeling of 'nostalgia' towards what I gather was a really really half hearted piece of hardware. Which isn't relevant if the games are good, but is relevant if you're trying just to recreate the feeling of working with the hardware as in that project! [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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man, get off my back. A lot of people (one involved in the sound API of this project) from the UK are behind this and are for it. What's your deal? I'm not emulating a system you don't like? boo-hoo. Don't use the lib then, or write one of your own. god, everybody's a critic now a days. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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um Mandrake... You need to settle down or something... -- |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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I just don't see why you felt the need to attack what console we were "styling" our simulator on for the challenges. It seems to me, to be unnecessary, esp by acting like we were doing the wrong thing by doing, as you so elegantly put it, the "american thing" by modelling our virtual console on one that you yourself think is not designed to your specifications. |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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You said "Full of retro nostolgia? you betcha.". I said that I didn't agree and explained why not only I might not, but why it probably wasn't safe to assume that I was all alone. [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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see, now this is what i was talking about. Attacking a simple comment I made. Sorry I upset you in some way because I enjoy the NES as a system, and know enough people that do that are programmers that would enjoy this project. Which is nearing completion btw. Some of whom are from Germany and Austria. But either way, why do you care what system I am modelling it after? Why is this such a big deal to you? Nostalgia is a personal thing, and enough people are supporting it, i see no reason to model it after the ZX Spectrum or any of the others on your list. You might as well ask why I didn't model it after the ATARI 2600. If you don't like it, don't use it. I'm not putting a gun to your head. It was a simple post, hoping some people here might be interested in it. I was wrong. |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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checks TH's posts Umm, Mandrake, what are you going on about? He just made a few observations. He never bashed the NES, he never bashed you or your project, he personally said that he had done much the same thing you did ... are we suffering from holiday stress or something? His comments may have been a bit general, but hardly flamewar material. Chill some. -- |
Kris Asick
Member #1,424
July 2001
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That reminds me, I've made two Gameboy ROMs in my life. One had a title screen promoting one of my games in Gameboy form then when you hit start it became a random number guessing game. My other rom was a parallaxing starfield which caused overflows into the sound registers since I hacked it together in record time. In fact, I have conceptual screenshots for one GBC game and two GBA games in my art folders --- Kris Asick (Gemini) |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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holiday stress+work stress= stressed out Mandrake. yeah, sorry about that. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Mandrake> Take two <insert favorite pain killer here>, get lots of rest, and call us in the morning -- |
Funklord
Member #467
June 2000
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I like the idea very much, remember that the good ol' NES is probably the system that will wake up the most nostalgia out of all of them. ---------------------- Age is inversely proportional to how much drink you've had - Funklord |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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heh painkillers... |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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hmm.. will it be possible to use the sound engine in other things? -- |
Paul Pridham
Member #250
April 2000
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See, Mandrake, I'm not the only one all keen on a bleepy synth sound library. (This is Madgarden, by the way) ---- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I wanted to get as close to the original (music anyway) as I could when I made my Dr. Mario clone but I couldn't rip the sound engine out of any nes emulator with out taking most of the emulator with it... quote: (This is Madgarden, by the way) -- |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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hey MadGarden. From what I heard, Golrien is almost done with the sound engine. Speaking of which everythin but the sound engine is complete, and dloadable here: |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Think I saw spellcaster on that swoo board too. What's a swoo? -- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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personally I cant read anything on the swoo boards... my monitor has a permanant gamma problem.. its way to dark... -- |
gnudutch
Member #951
February 2001
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quote:Mandrake: Hey you forgot modest too. |
Mandrake Root Produc
Member #300
April 2000
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pthbth modesty is for wussies, nyeah |
MkTerran
Member #577
August 2000
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quote: Think I saw spellcaster on that swoo board too. What's a swoo? [ AIM:MKTerran989 ] |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Quote: personally I cant read anything on the swoo boards... my monitor has a permanant gamma problem.. its way to dark... Yes, it'd be nice if colors could be customized Don't seem to be many people there; I keep seeing the same dozen over and over Ah well, I need a new forum to waste time on. Wouldn't want to get any work done or anything ..... -- |
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