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ubuntu hud
Neil Walker
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April 2000
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Well,
the current menu system in Ubuntu is dreadful, I can only see this being worse. I mean, I sometimes find it easier to type what I want (in windows) but as a fallback I can just browse the menu. This seems like ubuntu are getting rid of the menu completely just for a type based system. Seems like anti-gui to me ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16731071

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van_houtte
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January 2010
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I've always prefered KDE to gnome or any other wm that comes with whatever linux distro

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Timorg
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March 2002

Lots of decisions about Ubuntu seem to be geared towards netbooks and tablet style laptops. When you use in on an actual desktop, they seem to be clunky and not quite right. I am all for experimenting and trying new things, but giving the user a choice if they want it, is very important.

With the last round of Ubuntu, I just won't be using it any more. It was the last thing I needed to get me to move my laptop across to Arch. Ubuntu have a market share and they don't seem to care if they piss it away.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Hey, the HUD has a glimmer of hope, I really love KRunner's features, which seem identical to the HUD. Just the HUD is translucent and covers up a large section of the screen, which depending on your preferences may make it more, or less useful.

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Timorg said:

Ubuntu have a market share and they don't seem to care if they piss it away.

That is almost every company here lately though.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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I switched to XUbuntu because whoever is in charge of Ubuntu is wearing a crazy hat. :P

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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I put Razor-Qt on one of my old laptops. Its quite nice for a slim and light desktop. Better than LXDE at least. LXDE was fairly glitchy and incomplete.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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I switched to XUbuntu because whoever is in charge of Ubuntu is wearing a crazy hat. :P

In the latest Xubuntu, the keyring manager actually works. :o

Still no setting sane date/time settings without editing arcane configuration files though. Yay, Linux. :P

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Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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gnolam said:

Still no setting sane date/time settings without editing arcane configuration files though. Yay, Linux.

On any linux-based system I've used so far, it was a matter of:

1. Set system timezone when installing, configure RTC to run on UTC
2. Install ntpd
3. Set a suitable locale in your .profile or whatever (the syntax is, gasp, shell script, the same syntax you use to do all other administrative tasks)
4. Never look back

Some other operating systems cough aren't even smart enough to handle daylight savings automatically.

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Peter Wang
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April 2000

Gimp needs this now.

gnolam
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1. Set system timezone when installing

Check.

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Set a suitable locale in your .profile or whatever

=> edit arcane configuration files.
Seriously. It's 20-fucking-12. I should not have to do this. I should not have to edit a goddamned configuration file with a magic value found after hours of googling just to set a sane date format.
This has been a solved problem since, like... forever. But not in the Linux world. :P

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Some other operating systems cough aren't even smart enough to handle daylight savings automatically.

OS X? ???

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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I never have to set a suitable locale in a config file. When I install Debian, it asks me what my country and timezone is. It does the rest.

Maybe get a better distro.

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Emanresu
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I switched to Pinguy for my latest box. It's based off of Ubuntu and Linux Mint and it comes with a TON of junk built in. I'm thinking about switching to Linux Mint since Pinguy is based off of it. Linux Mint is up to date with Ubuntu and feels the way Ubuntu is supposed to feel, although it does feel a bit like KDE as well. Pinguy just seems to be a bit too cluttered, and the fact that it is a version behind doesn't help it.

Maybe get a better distro.

Agreed. I've never edited a config file to change my time....... Then again, I've never had a reason to change the time once I set it. ;D

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Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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I never have to set a suitable locale in a config file. When I install Debian, it asks me what my country and timezone is. It does the rest.

Maybe get a better distro.

I work on a variety of Linux and FreeBSD servers; some of them default to a decent locale, others don't. For the latter systems, I just drop my .profile and .zshrc, and that's that.

gnolam said:

OS X?

Windows. Last time I checked, it still required manual user confirmation when switching into and out of DST, which is only natural if you set the RTC to local time.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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Since at least XP, the following has been true:

  • Automatic DST adjustment is enabled by default.

  • When automatic DST adjustment is on, it'll automatically adjust the clock for DST (d'uh ;)) and pop up a little notification to this fact when it's done so.

IIRC, it worked fine in Windows 98 as well, but I don't have a 98 install at hand to test it.

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Windows. Last time I checked, it still required manual user confirmation when switching into and out of DST, which is only natural if you set the RTC to local time.

Vista doesn't for me. Just pops up a window for a few seconds on start up that warns it will be changing accordingly for DST. Though for me I just picked my timezone and checked a box that says if I observe DST or not. Then it did the rest itself.

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Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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Mine also says I should review the time settings. Which, honestly, takes about 300 milliseconds of my time, so whatever.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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But the older W98 etc. doesn't know about the DST changing at different times of the year now for political correctness.

I really admire the U.S. Constitution. It's so much better than what we have now.

gnolam
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March 2002
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But the older W98 etc. doesn't know about the DST changing at different times of the year now for political correctness.

What.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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The rules have changed since 1998, and Windows 98 obviously hasn't been updated to match.

Karadoc ~~
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September 2002
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Does Ubuntu 1998 do DST correctly? :-/

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Timorg
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March 2002

In 1998 there was a computer at home with slackware linux on it, and it had settings for DST and when to change and so forth.

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Right. But Windows 98 updated DST correctly back then as well... it just hasn't kept up with the latest DST rules (allegedly).

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Evert
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November 2000
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gnolam said:

This has been a solved problem since, like... forever.

Indeed it has.
You just happen to not like the solution.

gnolam
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March 2002
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The Linux "that's a feature, not a deficiency" mindset is alive and well, I see.

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