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Google rolls out Web 2.0 interface |
Peter Hull
Member #1,136
March 2001
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I've just got on to it. A bit baffling for me - it seems to be a bit random about finding people (even if you have their email address) Pete
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Other than being able to follow people, the other big difference between it and Facebook seems to be that you cannot post something directly on a "friends" page. I wonder if that's a permanent omission or not. I don't use Facebook much at all, but it seems like a lot of noise (usage) is simply somebody saying something directly to another person via that person's profile page. With Google+ you have to post something on your own profile and mention the other person's name. It could be that they are trying to iron out the privacy implications. It's a bit more complex, because you have to look at it from both sides. i.e., Who is allowed to post on my profile, and also who should be able to see that post? Random note: the circles would be more useful if you could have super-circles that were simply unions of other circles. |
Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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Matthew Leverton said: Random note: the circles would be more useful if you could have super-circles that were simply unions of other circles. Open the circles page. Create the super-circle you want. Right-click a circle you want in the super-circle and click view circle in tab, then under more actions click select all. Repeat for all circles you want in your super-circle. Then click the selected tab and drag all of them into the super-circle. It's a bit hard than just dragging and dropping the circles themselves, but not much harder. EDIT: Also, you have to update the super-circle every time you update a sub-circle, which would be annoying.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Neil Black said: Also, you have to update the super-circle every time you update a sub-circle, which would be annoying. Yeah, that's what I would like to avoid. I would be helpful to have a virtual circle like "Colleagues" that includes actual circles of different work environments. There may be things I'd like everybody I work with to see, and other things that only pertain to certain sub group. As-is, you have to individually select each circle every time you post something, which would get tedious. Also, it would be useful as a way to view streams from your closest circles on a single page. I'm sure most people would rather only see a subset of their circles by default. |
Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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The whole thing has me thinking "meh". Unless everyone in the world starts using it like facebook, there's not real point in me even logging in.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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You could still use it as a silent observer, since it has a Twitter-like follow concept. It may seem like a slight difference from Facebook, but I think it's a brilliant way to gain momentum. If leading experts in a variety of fields decide to switch from Twitter/Facebook to Google+ (perhaps being And, while it is definitely a Facebook clone (bugs and all), it does seem to be slightly better designed and slightly more fresh. That along with the somewhat popular opinion to hate on Facebook (as people hate on Microsoft), I think it has potential. Google has a big advantage over Facebook. It's easier to tie a social network into Google's great search engine / e-mail service than it is to build search into Facebook. Facebook should be concerned that they are about to be made obsolete "overnight." Zuckerberg should sell out completely to Microsoft, buy a private island, and enjoy the rest of his billionaire life. |
Goalie Ca
Member #2,579
July 2002
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Google+ is somewhere between twitter and buzz with a bit of facebook style spamming. ------------- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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It would be less spammy if you could choose who to broadcast messages to. Say you want to post some nerdy thing that your family doesn't care about. While you could post a limited access message, it prevents the general public from casually stumbling upon the content. So it would be nice if you could post the message as public but only streamed to your nerd circle. Or alternatively, give the ability to tag messages and let the recipient decide to opt out of certain tags. |
Desmond Taylor
Member #11,943
May 2010
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I've been using Plus Google for a day now and I prefer it to facebook simply because there are not stupid apps that people can make and thefore harder for your wall's to be spammed out. |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I'm sure Google will add integrated spam apps soon enough. When they do, hopefully they add a way for a person to opt out of all application generated messages. |
Peter Hull
Member #1,136
March 2001
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Trent said: The whole thing has me thinking "meh". I'm not feeling it either. However I only have 6 contacts just now so it might get busier. I can't remember why I didn't have the same opinion when I joined Facebook. Matthew said: They search for facebook.com on Google, go to the site, log in, and never leave. I believe they're hoping to grab people before that - you go to Google search to find something and then a friend notification or whatever pops up and distracts you before you ever get to that other site. Pete
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Peter Hull said: I can't remember why I didn't have the same opinion when I joined Facebook. I joined Facebook when it was restricted to universities. So it was useful because everybody would register their courses, so you could easily connect with people you had classes with but didn't even know, etc. When they opened it up to the public it lost that focus and made it less useful as that kind of tool. I hardly use Facebook at all... mostly just to keep up with university contacts. My profile is as private as Facebook allows, and I'm not even connected with my local friends and family on it. Once Google+ is public, I'm going to close out my Facebook account. But I'm basically "meh" about Google+ as well, but I prefer Google's method of focusing on public profiles that can be followed. People (friends, family, strangers) can follow me, and I have no real obligation to do anything in return. Since I already have a GMail tab open at all times and use Google Search, and Google Talk, it's more convenient to just use Google+. I think if Google+ takes any bite out of Facebook, it will be because it feels more natural as a public blogging tool. |
Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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I've repeatedly been asked to join Facebook but I never did (too lazy and I thought to myself I don't need it, since I'm already keeping contact to people by e-mail, Skype and by lurking/participating on forums). However, recently an opportunity to jump on g+ has opened up (thx again PoV) and so I'm on there now. I had already been using gmail, google calendar, youtube and blogger (just for following others) so it kind of made sense to join the google social network instead of any other one now. <fanboy>Also, I don't know why, but I trust google to do it right.</fanboy> edit: Oh, if I missed anyone or anyone wants to add me, I can be found through the people search field at the top by my real name (using my avvy here as photo). --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Seems like people agree with me about how people who use Google+ as a blogging service will flood personal contacts to the point of frustration: https://plus.google.com/117373186752666867801/posts/6WN5vhHUfoV Edit: I think the simplest way to solve this problem is to be asked this when you add somebody to your circles: "Do you want to see this person's public content in your stream." If you answer no, then the only content you would see is something explicitly limited to your circle. It's not as flexible as a "publish to these circles" option (both could coexist), but it solves the issue without any fuss... especially if the publisher doesn't make use of a "publish to these circles" option. |
gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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Desmond Taylor
Member #11,943
May 2010
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I only have 4 people on there at the moment as most people I know use facebook. I'm hardly on that because all I ever get is people randomly posting links that are mostly warez, viruses or worst porn. I have kids and now I don't dare click on those shortened links because you cannot see where it is going to take you :/ |
Derezo
Member #1,666
April 2001
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I should really be giving it a shot... anyone want to send an invite to eric at digitalartifacts dot ca? {"name":"lzj4k.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/4\/2\/429489f4b94a0f7666c3a7e29dfafb01.gif","w":356,"h":283,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/4\/2\/429489f4b94a0f7666c3a7e29dfafb01"} "He who controls the stuffing controls the Universe" |
Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Derezo said: anyone want to send an invite to eric at digitalartifacts dot ca? Done. Not sure if you need a gmail account to register though. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I'm pretty sure you will need a google account, whether or not that comes with gmail access (without having to explicitly enable it), I don't know. -- |
FMC
Member #4,431
March 2004
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I've added a bunch of a.cc people from Dennis's circle... you should be able to track the name from my nick [FMC Studios] - [Caries Field] - [Ctris] - [Pman] - [Chess for allegroites] |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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I'll take an invite if no one has anything better to do with one. christopherbarry at G to the M to the AIL. -- |
Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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23yrold3yrold said: I'll take an invite if no one has anything better to do with one. Done. Not sure if there even is a limit to the number of invites one can send out. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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I'm just Neil Black on there, if anyone is looking to add me.
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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... Why does the Gender setting have an "Other" option? O_o REVISION: And who's Al Lefant? -- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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23yrold3yrold said: And who's Al Lefant? That's elias. His alt nick is "allefant". -- |
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