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compiling FLAC
Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Don't hijack other people's threads with your own questions.

Don't try to compile Allegro if you already have a binary.

I changed libFLAC.a to libFLAC.dll.a (ie changed the name of the file) and CMake doesn't give that warning so maybe it'll be ok now. I'm recompiling and we'll see if it works.

You shouldn't rename it. Anyway, I don't think that warning really matters. I believe it's telling you that Allegro will not enable dynamic linking for FLAC, which means it will be compiled directly into the module and not be an optional DLL.

But why are you even trying to compile Allegro? What's wrong with the binaries?

Compiling everything on Windows is a pain in the butt.

William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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I guess I'm doing it because I want to learn a bit about compiling libraries, but I think from here on, I'll take your sensible suggestion.

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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I have the same reason that Willima have... I want to learn... and I already mange to compile Allegro on Windows. I thought that was some error there because the ex_acodec_multi, ex_audio_props, ex_audio_simple examples didn't work... But neither does with the Binaries...

Compiling on Windows isn't difficult, the problem is there is not enough information, and that is what I'm trying to do...

I already know how to create the Dynamic libraries, but to complete my manual I have to be able to Link statically Allegro...

I am almost there... The problem is that I can't understand where to put all those Switches for source files and Switches for linker... I don't know if Michał Cichoń did it on purpose, but wrote twice:

Switches for source files 
.....
Switches for linker:
.....
Switches for executable:

nothing was here.

Switches for source files:
.....
Switches for linker:
.....

The new manual from wiseguy is very cool... He talks about how to do the static linking but using Visual Studio 2008...

Michał Cichoń
Member #11,736
March 2010

There you go. Nice and fresh build of libFLAC. This is exactly same library which I use to build Allegro.
I do not know what compiler version are you using, so I included all variations in the archive.

Note about compiling foreign libraries:
In case of small libraries I'm preparing build files by myself to make sure everything was set right.

I hope this will help.

"God starts from scratch too"
Windows Allegro Build Repo: http://targonski.nazwa.pl/thedmd/allegro/

William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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I thought that was some error there because the ex_acodec_multi, ex_audio_props, ex_audio_simple examples didn't work... But neither does with the Binaries...

I had a feeling that would be the case. What are we going to do ?

Michał Cichoń
Member #11,736
March 2010

I am almost there... The problem is that I can't understand where to put all those Switches for source files and Switches for linker... I don't know if Michał Cichoń did it on purpose, but wrote twice:

Switches for source files
.....
Switches for linker:
.....
Switches for executable:

nothing was here.

Switches for source files:
.....
Switches for linker:

First set of switches are for compiling library. Switches after "Switches for executable:" are for executables which you want to link the library.

"God starts from scratch too"
Windows Allegro Build Repo: http://targonski.nazwa.pl/thedmd/allegro/

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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I had a feeling that would be the case. What are we going to do ?

Well... So far I have learned how to use allegro with the binaries, compiling it, and what is left is learn how to do the static linking...

What are we going to do, is not so clear now... But what you want to do is to compile Allegro statically right?

Let me ask Cichón this... :)

First set of switches are for compiling library. Switches after "Switches for executable:" are for executables which you want to link the library.

First of all, I apologize for my extreme ignorance... But where do I have to put those switches?

What I could found was this, in CodeBlock.

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I put it there, but I got this error...

||=== Trivium, Debug ===|
ld.exe||cannot find -libstdc++|
||=== Build finished: 1 errors, 0 warnings ===|

But... if I remove "-libstdc++" I get this...

{"name":"find3.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/7\/b\/7b4e2d27516101597ffbc2c635021545.gif","w":987,"h":463,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/7\/b\/7b4e2d27516101597ffbc2c635021545"}find3.gif

I'm doing this...

#SelectExpand
1#define ALLEGRO_STATICLINK //WOOOOW 2#include "allegro5/allegro.h" 3#include "allegro5/allegro_font.h" 4#include "allegro5/allegro_ttf.h" 5#include "allegro5/allegro_image.h" 6#include <allegro5/allegro_primitives.h>

I also found this... But I don't know how to use it...

{"name":"find2.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/0\/101c74ad55d2e9230fa3c12a16e67443.gif","w":780,"h":407,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/0\/101c74ad55d2e9230fa3c12a16e67443"}find2.gif

Michał Cichoń
Member #11,736
March 2010

'-static-libstdc++' is the parameter, you have split after '-static'.

Also link those libraries too:

gdiplus
uuid
kernel32
winmm
psapi
opengl32
glu32
user32
comdlg32
gdi32
shell32
ole32
advapi32
ws2_32

Please keep in mind. Order of libraries does have matter.

"God starts from scratch too"
Windows Allegro Build Repo: http://targonski.nazwa.pl/thedmd/allegro/

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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Do I have to link them manually???? They are almost all in the System32 Folder...

But I couldn't find "uuid.dll" I just could find uuid.h inside the include folder of MinGW....

I'm getting this... :'(

{"name":"find4.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/3\/b\/3b69ff698f8df309aac1fa40b41e861e.gif","w":1414,"h":789,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/3\/b\/3b69ff698f8df309aac1fa40b41e861e"}find4.gif

I link all the libraries manually.... Like I did with the Allegro Static MT libraries... and fix the problem you told me ('-static-libstdc++' ) ::)

Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Do I have to link them manually????

You do if you link everything statically.

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AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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You do if you link everything statically.

Hmmm... Interesting I'm collecting quite good info with this ;D...

But I still getting that error...

C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|444|multiple definition of `_al_shutdown_gdiplus'| 

??? ??? ??? What does that mean?

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C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|444|multiple definition of `_al_shutdown_gdiplus'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_load_gdiplus_bitmap_f':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|220|multiple definition of `_al_load_gdiplus_bitmap_f'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_load_gdiplus_bitmap':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|300|multiple definition of `_al_load_gdiplus_bitmap'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `Z25_al_save_gdiplus_bitmap_fP12ALLEGRO_FILEPKcP14ALLEGRO_BITMAP':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|315|multiple definition of `_al_save_gdiplus_bitmap_f(ALLEGRO_FILE*, char const*, ALLEGRO_BITMAP*)'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_save_gdiplus_bitmap':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|392|multiple definition of `_al_save_gdiplus_bitmap'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_save_gdiplus_png_f':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|410|multiple definition of `_al_save_gdiplus_png_f'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_save_gdiplus_jpg_f':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|415|multiple definition of `_al_save_gdiplus_jpg_f'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_save_gdiplus_tif_f':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|420|multiple definition of `_al_save_gdiplus_tif_f'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_save_gdiplus_gif_f':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|425|multiple definition of `_al_save_gdiplus_gif_f'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
C:\MinGW\addons\image\CMakeFiles\allegro_image.dir\gdiplus.cpp.obj||In function `al_init_gdiplus':|
C:\allegro\addons\image\gdiplus.cpp|430|multiple definition of `_al_init_gdiplus'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp|| first defined here|
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C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp:(.text$_ZN20AllegroWindowsStream14QueryInterfaceERK5_GUIDPPv+0x10)||undefined reference to `IID_IUnknown'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp:(.text$_ZN20AllegroWindowsStream14QueryInterfaceERK5_GUIDPPv+0x3d)||undefined reference to `IID_ISequentialStream'|
C:\allegro5\lib\liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a(gdiplus.o):gdiplus.cpp:(.text$_ZN20AllegroWindowsStream14QueryInterfaceERK5_GUIDPPv+0x4d)||undefined reference to `IID_IStream'|
C:\MinGW\CMakeFiles\OpenAL32.dir\Alc\winmm.obj||In function `WinMMOpenCapture':|
C:\openal\Alc\winmm.c|243|undefined reference to `alcSetError'|
C:\MinGW\CMakeFiles\OpenAL32.dir\Alc\winmm.obj||In function `CaptureThreadProc@4':|
C:\openal\Alc\winmm.c|136|undefined reference to `SuspendContext'|
C:\openal\Alc\winmm.c|175|undefined reference to `ProcessContext'|
C:\MinGW\CMakeFiles\OpenAL32.dir\Alc\winmm.obj||In function `alcWinMMProbe':|
C:\openal\Alc\winmm.c|493|undefined reference to `AppendCaptureDeviceList'|
C:\MinGW\CMakeFiles\OpenAL32.dir\Alc\winmm.obj||In function `WinMMCaptureSamples':|
C:\openal\Alc\winmm.c|414|undefined reference to `alcSetError'|
||=== Build finished: 28 errors, 95 warnings ===|

Michał Cichoń
Member #11,736
March 2010

liballegro_image-5.0.0-RC4-static-mt.a is a library from pre-build binaries. Remove it from linking. Why? Because you build you own version, right? You will probably have to do same thing with rest of 5.0.0-RC4 libs.

"God starts from scratch too"
Windows Allegro Build Repo: http://targonski.nazwa.pl/thedmd/allegro/

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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Yes but I'm using the pre-build binaries to stay away from errors... My plan is to learn how to statically link Allegro with the pre-build one and then try with my own static libraries....

Since actually I am not completely sure if my compilation of allegro works 100%, I'm using the pre-build ones that I know that works 100%...

I used the binaries of my compilation and works fine... But to stay away from errors I'm doing that... There is no problem right?

William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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But what you want to do is to compile Allegro statically right?

What I think I want is to have a set of examples that work as intended by any means possible.

With the statically linked version, can't you just set an option in CMake ?

Michał Cichoń
Member #11,736
March 2010

You cannot link your executable both with your version and pre-build binaries at once. Use one version at the time and switch between.

"God starts from scratch too"
Windows Allegro Build Repo: http://targonski.nazwa.pl/thedmd/allegro/

Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Indeed, why would you not expect to get a multiple definition error if you link to the same libs twice?

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"The less evidence we have for what we believe is certain, the more violently we defend beliefs against those who don't agree" -- https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/592870205409353730

AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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What I think I want is to have a set of examples that work as intended by any means possible.

Well, all my examples works except those of audio... even the demo works (with audio)...

I don't know what is happening with those examples... maybe it's a problem of those examples I don't know...

But the rest of examples works right???

You cannot link your executable both with your version and pre-build binaries at once. Use one version at the time and switch between.

I'm doing that???? I didn't know....

Lets see, I'm going to reinstall everything... I'm going to use just the Pre-build binaries at first time...

Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I'm doing that???? I didn't know....

The monolith lib contains ALL of the allegro addon libs, and many of its dependencies, all balled up into one single library. If you also link to other allegro addon libs, you'll get duplication errors, since you're linking to some of the same code more than once.

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"If you can't think of a better solution, don't try to make a better solution." -- weapon_S
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AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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I DID IT!!!! I DID IT!!! I STATICALLY LINK ALLEGRO ON WINDOWS!!!

YHEAAAAAAAA!!!!

WOOOOW FINALLY.. About two days on this...

Anyway, since I couldn't find the uuid.dll in my PC (Windows Vista) , I searched for it on my Windows XP machine, and found a "libuuid.a" file inside "C:\Program Files\CodeBlocks\MinGW\lib". Which I link to... AND WORKS!!!!! YHEA!!!!!

I don't remember why I did install CodeBlock with Mingw if I always use the Mingw installer, but anyway was.... "The destiny" ;D ;D

But why couldn't find the uuid.dll file on windows vista???? Isn't a system file???

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