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Yodhe23
Member #8,726
June 2007

I am writing an fairly unoriginal turn-based top-down rogue like RPG at the moment, and wondered what things people did and didn't like in these type of games.

So do you think being able to carve out your own tunnels and cave system is a good/bad thing? As I am currently implementing this after reading the Minecraft thread. Mining for gems and diamonds, as well as secret rooms etc.

How important is combat? What system/style do you like and why. I rejected the seperate battle screen concept, and personally I think it disrupts the games, and feels artifical.

I also rejected having "shops/traders" in the mines where it is set, as that seemed to be again an artifical device. Consequently whilst you gain find jewels and treasure, they are only worth something when you leave/escape the dungeon, and they slow you down. Nor more carrying 1,000,000 piece of gold. Certainly I want to make the emphasis on a more roleplaying and dealing with the limitations, than merely dungeon hack and accumalate your way through a game/module/scenario.

The same goes for levelling up, which I think should happen between modules/scenarios like in RPGs, and you shouldn't be limited to a single class. or occupation. Also experience should be specific to areas of expertise, and not general. I like the Warhammer fantasy RPG system where you have professions that you migrate through to acquire specific skills and attribute increases, rather than the AD&D/traditional get 1,000 for level 1, 2,000 for level 2.

Anyway just wanted some ideas, talk about various things, mostly because I am having a week or two's break before I get the game ready for a Beta release for this forum.

Audric
Member #907
January 2001

I think you'd get more input from a specific roguelike community.

I only wanted to react on the "No more carrying 1,000,000 piece of gold". This is the issue of realism vs fun in games, arcade vs simulation. I advise you check a few "survival" roguelikes before you choose your target level of realism. (ex: Unreal World RPG). Such games have some die-hard followers, but they are definitely not the most popular.

verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Yodhe23 said:

The same goes for levelling up, which I think should happen between modules/scenarios like in RPGs, and you shouldn't be limited to a single class. or occupation.

That would depend on teams, "leveling up" is based on player skill and everyone has equal "rights" to play but the one with most skill has the lead. Usually arena type games have this "effect". Basically there is no level and everyone is equally able to use resources.

Yodhe23
Member #8,726
June 2007

Probably a good idea....

Do you know of any good rogue forums/communities?

Audric
Member #907
January 2001

I know only one, rec.games.roguelike.development, which seems to have move to google groups. You're more likely to get players, testers, and opinions.

By the way, I may have to moderate my argument versus realism. You talked about "dealing with the limitations", and indeed this can be a core gameplay element, the player having to choose which proportion of his inventory he dedicates to power-up and defense (utilities and expendables) versus wealth items to carry away.
Such system also helps lower the curve of rewards, because when inventory is full, the player has to abandon a low-value item (5gp Silver cup) for a higher-value one (20Gp Golden Crown).

CursedTyrant
Member #7,080
April 2006
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I know of this one, altough I have no idea whatsoever if it's any good or not: http://www.roguetemple.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=7d1c2cd90ca4809619be2fda25c74862;

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Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001

Where's the teamwork request?

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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Where's the teamwork request?

Its not specified its implied because certain games that dont have a level up system require a "skill based" hierarchy system.

Its something that happens in leadership type games like ctf.
If you play Halo tournament you'll see what I mean.

Yodhe23 said:

and you shouldn't be limited to a single class. or occupation.

Arthur Kalliokoski
Member #5,540
February 2005
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Where's the teamwork request?

I thought he meant the OP is unusual in not asking for help coding/artwork/sounds based on his seed of an idea.

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verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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I thought he meant the OP is unusual in not asking for help coding/artwork/sounds based on his seed of an idea.

Its actually related to group theory in sociology.

Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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verthex, I think you're talking about something entirely different (and much more interesting).

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