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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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The latest posts remind me of Isaiah 55:11. Did you know God's word never returns void? -- |
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nonnus29
Member #2,606
August 2002
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If a.cc expended as much energy on making games as it does religious debates, there'd be... well, there'd be a hell of a lot of allegro games being made, that's certain. {"name":"591273","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/b\/7\/b7133bed907b45b3aad1e9a1703cc1d7.png","w":348,"h":410,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/b\/7\/b7133bed907b45b3aad1e9a1703cc1d7"} |
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Rampage
Member #3,035
December 2002
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nonnus: That's so funny I almost spilled my coffee over the keyboard. Next time please be less funny. -R |
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OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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My friends just looked at me with surprise when I began to laugh. [My website][CppReference][Pixelate][Allegators worldwide][Who's online] |
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Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001
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Next compo be about games filled with propaganda about the coder's religious/antireligious conviction. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest. |
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Matt Smith
Member #783
November 2000
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I dunno {"name":"Moofam.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/6\/1\/6117401a87c8b4f9bb5783305a015050.gif","w":575,"h":406,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/6\/1\/6117401a87c8b4f9bb5783305a015050"} They look a bit shifty to me. |
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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001
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A challenger appears http://pehkonen.1g.fi/mona/tykkaa/haisuli2.gif -- |
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Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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Why can't something be omnipotent? Sure, it could create something so large it couldn't lift it, right? Then it wouldn't be omnipotent, right? You're right, but to put it correctly, you wouldn't be omnipotent anymore. If you are omnipotent, you can do anything, even removing your own omnipotence is within your realm. Therefore, anything an omnipotent being does that defeats itself simply falls under the category of the omnipotent being removing its own omnipotence (which an omnipotent being can do). But why would it ever do that? Just fueling the fire. ------------ |
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Quote:
Just fueling the fire.
Nah. This is just more purely academic babble, especially since we've shown that God is clearly not omnipotent. -- |
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Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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Quote: especially since we've shown that God is clearly not omnipotent. I didn't say anything about God (I'm going to stay out of that area). Just trying to prove that omnipotence isn't impossible (or playing devil's advocate). ------------ |
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Samuli
Member #1,837
January 2001
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Onewing: That being wouldn't be omnipotent. Obviously, an omnipotent being should be able to perform any given task. So I kindly ask him (assume masculinity for simplicity) to design a game he himself can't finish coding, then finish coding it. One of the two tasks will definetly fail, thus failing the task. Ok, now you could say that he'd lose his omnipotence while designing the game. Let's change the task to form: "design a game you can't finish coding without losing your omnipotence blah.." By the way, I find the usual form of the paradox "create a stone so big you can't lift it" a bit ill defined. Where is the guy standing? If he's standing on earth, he'll just simply push earth with his legs, thus lifting the stone. So, there should be two stones he couldn't move and he should be standing on either one. This is so much fun I'm getting a headache.
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Quote: I didn't say anything about God
True, but it's the topic (well, as of about post 20 or so it is -- |
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Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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Quote: Ok, now you could say that he'd lose his omnipotence while designing the game. Let's change the task to form: "design a game you can't finish coding without losing your omnipotence blah.." Tricky! Okay, assuming you mean "finsh a game that you design specifically impossible for yourself to finish without ever losing your omni-stuff." Designing the game is no problem, of course, finishing it is. So our friend Omni creates a free-willed race that learns to live, spead and evolve over many centuries. The goal is that the race will eventually finish the task somewhere over the timeline of infinity. Then of course you have the argument of who finished the game, Omni or the race. I don't know, I'm not omnipotent. Quote: This is so much fun I'm getting a headache. This is such a headache, it's getting fun. ------------ |
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OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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Ouch, what have I done, what? [My website][CppReference][Pixelate][Allegators worldwide][Who's online] |
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Jakub Wasilewski
Member #3,653
June 2003
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Quote: I don't know, I'm not omnipotent.
Wouldn't "knowing" things fall under omniscience? --------------------------- |
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Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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What's that coming over the hill? Is it a unicorn? Is it a unicorn? |
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Onewing
Member #6,152
August 2005
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Quote: Wouldn't "knowing" things fall under omniscience? I'm not claiming that either... ------------ |
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Jakub Wasilewski
Member #3,653
June 2003
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Quote: I'm not claiming that either...
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Rampage
Member #3,035
December 2002
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Does Gödel's theorem apply to a non-omnipotent, non-omniscient God? -R |
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Samuli
Member #1,837
January 2001
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I think Gödel's theorem states that it's impossible to say whether a system has no contradictions using only the axioms of the system. Or something like that, I'm too tired to look it up. So I'd say theorem doesn't apply to such a thing. Eihter that or I didn't get what you're saying/I'm thinking of some other theorem of Gödel. He had a few of 'em. Edit: paradoxal typo
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HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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Quote: ... doesn't applies ... How interesting __________ |
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manjula
Member #3,569
June 2003
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Kali ma is displeased with you all {"name":"KaliMother.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/c\/9c39f92e0c50fa28128957f8b0be7b28.jpg","w":635,"h":652,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/c\/9c39f92e0c50fa28128957f8b0be7b28"} |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Quote: There may be more than one universe. Science is still unsure about that.. Since, by definition, the universe is all that we can sense in one way or another, finding "more universes" would merely expand the universe as we know it (like they've been doing for hundreds of years). Quote: Can God microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it? Supernovas don't just happen, ya know. He's using the scientific method to test this. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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Quote: Kali ma is displeased with you all More anime? |
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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001
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Quote: More anime?
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. I intended to ask you where I put the manual for my motherboard 