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Oh. My. God--What have I done?
Chris Katko
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January 2002
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I'm very bad with women--I lack the experience. I've also got a bit of social phobia. However, now it's mostly just in situations that are new to me (like those dealing with women).

Well, I asked this beautiful girl named "Amber" out. Of course... it was three months after I met her and it took me a literal hour of pacing to actually get myself to walk over to her and say it. She gladfully gave me her number. I was the happiest man alive. Come New Year Eve, I got fucked up on champagne. And I don't mean "ha ha" drunk, I mean "Oh my god, am I going to die?" drunk--it was so bad. I was coughing up blood. Well, come Monday, I had to call her to tell her I had to work Tuesday so we couldn't go out then. But I got her voicemail. By 7 PM I thought I was sober. I was not. I had a hungover or some such. So the message I left was--while true--very pause ridden and poorly constructed. So... today while talking to a friend he said I should call her back then. Well, following his advice, I did.

And Oh my God, this is what I said when I got her voicemail AGAIN:
"Hey, it's Chris. Uhh.. I was just calling to say that last time I called I thought I was sober. And I apologize. Heh. Uhh... I guess that's it. Have a good night."

I clicked the end button and then came to the "sweet mary mother of fuck, what did I just do?" feeling that I'm sure your feeling too after reading that.

So let's be honest then. I have zero chances with this girl now, right? She works tomorrow and I'm going to try and at least get her to not think I'm an absolute psycho. But I really don't think I have any chance at all of dating her now. Oh my God. :'(

You see, I'm horrible when leaving voice messages because without somewhere there, I have no idea what to say, and worse yet, I don't explain anything. Like what I meant by "I thought I was sober." So now I come off as both an alcoholic and a freaking psycho for not caring that I bluntly told her so.

Oh my God--What have I done?

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Oh my God--What have I done?

You drank booze. This is why I never touch the stuff. :)

Fortunately, "I thought I was sober" will work as a great excuse for your ridiculous behavior in general; if she has any experience with this stuff she may even think it was cute. :) Just hope she's the forgiving type and say "I'm sorry, I was hung over" over and over and you'll be fine.

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Rampage
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December 2002
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Oh my God--What have I done?

You didn't know when to stop drinking. That's why only responsible persons should drink.

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I clicked the end button and then came to the "sweet mary mother of fuck, what did I just do?" feeling that I'm sure your feeling too after reading that.

Are you truly that worried because of a simple voice message? Just call her again and explain, it's not like you're the only person in the world with poor social skills. Specially when interacting with the opposite sex.

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And yes, lurkers, Allegro.CC is the place to come for advice on women!

Quite right. Giving advice over the Internet to someone you don't know is cheap and easy. Everybody is doing it! Why don't you?

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Steve Terry
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March 2002
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Good luck Chris, just don't over react that's the worst you can do. Just let things go for maybe a week then try contacting her again in a casual way.

23yrold3yrold ... yeah I need a lot of advice :P

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Good luck Chris, just don't over react that's the worst you can do. Just let things go for maybe a week then try contacting her again in a casual way.

No... you don't understand. I work with her (just different sections). I'll probably end up seeing her tomorrow because I have to turn in my new schedule.

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I'm going to try and at least explain it tomorrow.

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You didn't know when to stop drinking. That's why only responsible persons should drink.

You have to understand: I play to win. If I'm going to drink, I'm going to drink. Or at least... that was my thought process at the time. Too bad, when you play to win with alcohol... you never win. Additionally, nobody bothered to tell me how stupid that was. I've drank plenty of beer, but never champagne. Oh my God, never do that with champagne even if you drink. Remember, I weigh only 115 pounds (which is mostly muscle--not fat) and rarely drink so I have no tolerance.

I'm not going to drink again. I mean, if someone hands me a beer or asks me if I want to go drinking, I'm turning it down.

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Rampage
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December 2002
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I'm not going to drink again. I mean, if someone hands me a beer or asks me if I want to go drinking, I'm turning it down.

Hey! What were you just told about overreacting? ;)

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Don Freeman
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October 2004
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Women are generally not THAT shallow...if you've known her for a while she should know that you are not a drunk or a physco...but then again...sometimes they are flighty and run off at the first chance. Does she know that you drink...she should understand that it WAS the NEW YEAR! Lots of people get...well a little over induilged. If she's really that in a hurry to leave you, then it was probably best. What happens if you guys got married...she would probably look for little excuses to leave... There may still be hope, just try not to make too much of a jack ass out of yourself with the calls! :)

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kentl
Member #2,905
November 2002

If she wanted to go out with you in the first place chances are she still wants to. Now follow my expert advice: ;)

  1. You're uncomfortable when leaving voice mail messages, so stop doing it. Instead call her again later. If she always gives you the voice mail, chances are she is rejecting you but don't have the guts to tell you so. Then you can choose between confronting her or simply moving on to cooler ladies.

  2. Gain 20 pounds. It doesn't matter much if it's in fat or muscles. Work out or eat unhealthy food. The latter is easier but has a slightly worse result.

  3. Drinking to win is to drink the right amount. It's a game of balance. You should go out drinking more often and check where you have your limit. More or less alcohol intake than this limit => less fun. This will also get you in contact with other ladies in case it don't go well with your work mate.

  4. Take it easy. Learn to laugh at your mistakes instead of feeling too bad about them.

Archon
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January 2004
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And yes, lurkers, Allegro.CC is the place to come for advice on women!

Not to mention our numerous volunteer test-subjects for those who need to practice.

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I'm not going to drink again.

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ImLeftFooted
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October 2003
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Rule of thumb. If you do something really awkward, leave them alone for at least 2 days, preferably 3 before approaching them again.

Add more if they live particularly busy lives.

And don't apologize. Apologizing for being awkward just makes another awkward situation.

And btw I know a bunch of active social people that almost never leave voicemails for exactly this reason.

wearetheborg
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June 2003

Wow, you only weigh 3 lbs. more than I do.

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Matthew Leverton
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And yes, lurkers, Allegro.CC is the place to come for advice on women!

Of course, because I am here. Dr. Phil and I go way back. 8-)

First off, if you stop drinking she will appear less beautiful. So it's a double edge sword. And also, keep in mind that you might appear just as foolish to her when you are sober. So there really might not be any benefit to stop drinking.

It's a well known fact that women are attracted to drunks. They are fun to be around, but more importantly they are responsible. There's nothing more responsible than dropping half your paycheck on alcohol each week.

Leaving voice messages, whether drunk or sober, is great. Women like to know that they are wanted. In fact, they are delighted when they turn on their phone and find three or four messages from you - especially if they build on each other with more drama.

If you apologize, she'll think you've done something wrong. So don't ever apologize. For instance, if her dog gets run over by a car, and you say, "I'm so sorry. :-/," she's likely to blame you.

I think your best course of action is get completely wasted, go up to her, and ask her to marry you.

kentl
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November 2002

Go get her tiger!

Epsi
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And also, keep in mind that you might appear just as foolish to her when you are sober. So there really might not be any benefit to stop drinking.

Yay for self-confidence ;D

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September 2001

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Billybob
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January 2003

I don't see what the big deal is.

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feeling that I'm sure your feeling too after reading that.

Nope. In fact I understood what you were trying to say perfectly.

You've got nothing to worry about. Don't get yourself all worked up about nothing. Wait until you miss a date, then you can start freaking out. Or worse yet, forget a girlfriend's birthday. That's the worst.

Linky to cheer you up. It's related!

Goalie Ca
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July 2002
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well... blood!? wow. i've never done that. Could it be perhaps you pickled your stomach and kept barfing and barfin and didn't even know it causing major irritation!? I mean wow! Even so haha drunk often results in barfing or something.. if you don't feel sick you're just buzzed ::)

Oh about the girl... don't act weird or "try to hard" but do appear like you got your shit together. I dunno what else to say. If you went out with her that night and totally got drunk and wandered off and left her alone she won't be too impressed. She sounds like a nice girl. I have no idea how you can make a case to her (i don't know her and what's she's like) but shit man... we're talking she has to feel "special" and not the "make-up-for-being-an-idiot" special. She has to know you're legit and not some repeat offender.

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Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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You are overreacting a tad.. ;)

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You have to understand: I play to win. If I'm going to drink, I'm going to drink. Or at least... that was my thought process at the time. Too bad, when you play to win with alcohol... you never win. Additionally, nobody bothered to tell me how stupid that was.

Oh dear. You have a lot to learn young jedi!!

jhuuskon
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April 2000
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I got fucked up on champagne.

That's why I only do Jägermeister. You can't get fucked up on Jägermeister. Just don't switch to clear spirits in the middle of an evening or you're going to lose control and wake up next to a woman 6 years older... Though that was kind of fun per se...

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Archon
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January 2004
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Just don't switch to clear spirits in the middle of an evening or you're going to lose control and wake up next to a woman 6 years older... Though that was kind of fun per se...

Haha. That's a funny hypothetical situation you just described ;)

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Well that explains jhuuskon's avatar! \o/

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Steve++
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January 2002

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Just don't switch to clear spirits in the middle of an evening or you're going to lose control and wake up next to a woman 6 years older... Though that was kind of fun per se...

Nothing wrong with that :D

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Just don't switch to clear spirits in the middle of an evening or you're going to lose control and wake up next to a woman 6 years older... Though that was kind of fun per se...

Nothing wrong with that

It depends on the ellipsis after older. If it's a woman 6 years older... than the Queen Mother (british), then...

jhuuskon
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April 2000
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Well then i was 22 and she was 28... Though i haven't heard of her since... ::)

;D

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ngiacomelli
Member #5,114
October 2004

If the girl refuses to talk to you on the grounds that you phoned her drunk after a New Years celebration, she's probably not worth it. That said, 'playing to win' is not the right way to approach drinking. It's childish.



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